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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    If you would like to check into my "opinions" regarding this, do a little research of your own. In fact, here is a few links to get started.

    Why Do People Become Homeless

    Why Are People Homeless?

    National Coalition for the Homeless

    So once again.....tell the people who got lay-ed off and lost their home, or their mortgage company shot their interest rates up, that they are druggies or alcoholics or just lazy.
    I read all of those links and I didn't see a single thing that refuted Caine's assertion.

    There was a whole lot of "oh there's no affordable housing or no livable wages," but those are both statistics made up out of whole cloth. They claim that a "living wage" is $33k/year. Are you ****ing kidding me? In what world is $16/hr not enough to not be homeless?
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    They claim that a "living wage" is $33k/year. Are you ****ing kidding me? In what world is $16/hr not enough to not be homeless?
    With less than $16 an hour you can qualify for an FHA loan and buy a house.

    In my experience these few years, almost everyone I have worked with has been very poor with handling money.

    Using rent to own stores, payday lenders and buy here pay here car lots.
    They finance themselves into poverty.
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    Once again, I did not say he should not have bought the yacht. I simply said, if you have that much money, why not help other people out.
    Yes, you said something ignorant.

    The money went somewhere useful.

    It didn't go where you thought it would be useful, but then again, it's not your money, and, indeed, the money provided employment for many at all levels of society.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    I'm pretty sure that the shipyard who built it probably didn't hire any extra workers to construct the ship,
    I'm pretty sure that if the ship hadn't been built, the shipyard's employees wouldn't have had three hundred million dollars on their hands to spend, and the stell mills, the boiler makers, the companies making electrical wiring and steam turbines and other useful things and skills a society needs.

    Instead, you would rather the guy drive through the ghetto throwing hundred dollar bills out the limo's window so the crack ho's will be hungry next week, again.

    That ship was an investment, welfare is a waste.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    and if they did, as soon as this ship was completed they probably lay-ed those same workers out putting them right back in the same financial situation they were already in.
    With an extra two years experience under their belts, which increases their opportunities in the future.

    What opportunities are provided by someone pigging out on free cheese for two years?

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    I did say the yacht was sweet, and yes he can do with his money whatever he wants. He was able to dump 300 million into that yacht alone, obviously that amount doesn't come close to what his total net worth is.......so if he were a decent human being, he would help other people out some.
    He is a decent human being, he provided people willing to work with jobs.

    What can be more decent than that? Throwing the money away?

    Why is that better?

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    There are plenty of jobs out there that the American people are unwilling to do.

    Its their own fault.
    You forgot these important words:

    ...that the American people are unwilling to do at the wages offered

    It's their problem, sure, but now it's clearly stated.

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    They would have ample time to find another place to live IF and ONLY IF they have the income to attain another place of residence.
    Well, I understand what you're saying. After all, a person defaulting on a mortgage is never aware of the fact that he's not making his mortgage payments. The bank never sends him letters, they never try to call him on the telephone, they don't take any action at all, not a single blessed step, until one night, at three AM, the KNOCK comes on the door, and BANG, that family is homeless, on the street, with absolutely no warning that anything was in the wind.

    There's absolutely no way those people had anything to do with their dispossession and they certainly had no warning whatsoever what the future was going to hold for them six months before.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    Use your brain
    You should take that advice.

    People that lose their residences because they don't pay their mortgage don't go homeless, they become renters.

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    You are right...people don't need cell phones, tv, couches, or any of that ****.....however, just because you work your ass off for 65+ hours a week like I have done since I was 12 years old to help my mom pay the bills, doesn't mean that you'll be lucky enough to make $44k a year...which by the way is about 5 times the amount considered to be living in poverty for a family of 4......and these homeless people don't think life is a party, maybe just the ones you see begging on the street corners, but who's to say they didn't become that way because they are giving up due to inconsiderate jackasses like yourself?
    So....$44k is the equivalent to $22 dollars per hour.

    You're saying that it's a factor of five more than the national poverty line, so you're talking about $4.40 an hour, or a little over half the minimum wage, which means they're either itinerant farmers or they're so useless they can't hold a mimimum wage job, and only work half the year.

    WHERE does this become someone else's problem, when that someone else has his own family to support, his own life to live, and when that someone else simply isn't responsible for anything in that other person's life, not a thing?

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    There are plenty of jobs out there that the American people are unwilling to do.

    Its their own fault.
    OMG! Again are you serious? I know college educated people who lost their jobs that cannot even find work in fast food, retail, etc. It is bad out here. Wake Up Dude!
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    OMG! Again are you serious? I know college educated people who lost their jobs that cannot even find work in fast food, retail, etc. It is bad out here. Wake Up Dude!
    The mere possession of a college degree is not (and has never been) some magical panacea.



    That doesn't change the truth of what Caine said.

    If you truly know some college educated people who can't find any work, send them my way. I'll hire as many as you can possibly find to work for minimum wage, doing things like cleaning apartments, walking dogs, doing laundry, mowing lawns, etc. No joke.

    If they don't want to do that work for minimum wage, then I guess they really aren't in as dire straits as you claim.
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    I just approve of how the chart does not show a HUGE difference between HS grad and College Grad..but does show a HUGE difference between non-HS grad and any grad.

    That said the economy isn't great, not getting much better, and inflation is starting to worry people..even gas is going up again.
    Carter 39 year re-union in 2010 at this rate.
    May even have the Iranians taking hostages and sealing off the straits...no Soviets though go to make do with the Chinese and North Koreans.



    Anyway this is about a super awesome ship..James Bond style..hell the guy even looks like a James Bond Villain!
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    I just approve of how the chart does not show a HUGE difference between HS grad and College Grad..but does show a HUGE difference between non-HS grad and any grad.
    This is completely true. What with the proliferation of schools and lowering of standards, graduating college is no longer the accomplishment it used to be. If you can graduate high school, there's a good chance you can succeed at all sorts of union-esque jobs that will pay as much and have as much job security as the kind of job that many college grads will get.

    By that same token, if you can't graduate high school, you've got a long ****ty road ahead of you.
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