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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    Actually, that's another stereotype because not all families are in the position to help. They can't send money because they are living in poverty themselves.
    Who said anything about SENDING money? Have you ever heard of families living under the same roof? I mean if someone is homeless this would DEFINATELY be the thing to do, yes/no?


    Anyways, who's to say that some people even have families who are still alive.
    Oh jesus, lets take the least common denominator and make it out to be the most common situation.

    Think about what you're saying before you start jumping into accusations like that. And Yes, I DO see what MOST people do with that $5....and it's not go buy drugs or alcohol. The ones who do that are the ones you see on the street corners begging for money. Find a homeless person who isn't begging and give him $5 and watch what he buys with it. Or better yet, if you are afraid that someone is going to spend the $5 on drugs or alcohol, give them a loaf of bread and a pack of bologna instead.
    You can't automatically assume that just because someone is homeless they've made "poor" choices, you don't even know them...hell you won't even stop to see what that persons name is so how the hell could you know that he made poor choices causing him to be without a home?????
    Now you assume I won't stop to find out what their name is? Do you understand how often I deal with homeless people? You entertain me with your assumptions.....

    You are just a greedy bastard lucky enough have never struggled in a situation like this.
    More personal attacks..... is this how you debate when your losing miserably?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    You are right...people don't need cell phones, tv, couches, or any of that ****.....however, just because you work your ass off for 65+ hours a week like I have done since I was 12 years old to help my mom pay the bills, doesn't mean that you'll be lucky enough to make $44k a year...which by the way is about 5 times the amount considered to be living in poverty for a family of 4......and these homeless people don't think life is a party, maybe just the ones you see begging on the street corners, but who's to say they didn't become that way because they are giving up due to inconsiderate jackasses like yourself?
    So now I am an inconsiderate jackass.

    Keep the personal attacks flowing my friend, its just showing that you can't manage to debate the actual topic.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    So what ?



    Why should I ? You explain it to me. My point was, I will care about your opinion on what to do with 300 million, when you have accumulated 300 million.



    I'll bet, if you tried to accumulate your own 300 million, you would soon find out why not.



    Prove this assertion.
    Ok, once again, it's a suggestion based on humane beliefs. Based on the beliefs that helping others in less fortunate situations is a good thing. This is exactly how America has became what it is today, by everyone not helping everyone, and sitting back smirking making fun of people in less fortunate situations. It's simply quite pathetic. And yes, if I were to have accumulated over 300 million dollars, I would help other people out more so than I do now. I am not in a position to help much, but I give what I can when I can, which is what originally made America a great country, but ultimately we are in a reversal of morals and beliefs that is allowing us to deteriorate from within.


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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    ****ing Robbed his own nation blind, I ****ing hate these arrogant sons of bitches. Where is Putin and his special tea when you need it.
    The privatization chaos of 1990s Russia was the exit wound of communism. While some things could obviously have been handled much better, Yeltsin isn't to blame for its problems, Lenin & Co are!

    Over time, in a free market, money tends to flow away from incompetent individuals and toward more competent ones. Most billionaires in the world are self-made, and billionaires who gain their wealth through fraud tend not to remain billionaires for long.


    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    Still, we have hundreds of thousands or homeless and starving people who need help.....
    There are in fact billions of people living through subsistence agriculture, which means they don't produce any economic assets except feeding themselves, and they in fact often are a liability, sucking in billions in foreign aid. All people used to live like this prior to industrialization, and what's preventing those poor people from working their way up the economic ladder are protectionist and "anti-sweatshop" laws that first world demagogue politicians often impose for their own political benefit!
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So now I am an inconsiderate jackass.

    Keep the personal attacks flowing my friend, its just showing that you can't manage to debate the actual topic.
    If I am reading right, you started the personal attacks.....not on myself, but against the homeless population by stating they are mostly druggies and alcoholics. And besides, I call it like I see it, and yes....you are an inconsiderate jackass who thinks solely of himself.


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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    Ok, once again, it's a suggestion based on humane beliefs. Based on the beliefs that helping others in less fortunate situations is a good thing. This is exactly how America has became what it is today, by everyone not helping everyone, and sitting back smirking making fun of people in less fortunate situations. It's simply quite pathetic. And yes, if I were to have accumulated over 300 million dollars, I would help other people out more so than I do now. I am not in a position to help much, but I give what I can when I can, which is what originally made America a great country, but ultimately we are in a reversal of morals and beliefs that is allowing us to deteriorate from within.

    Yep, and it starts with people who think life is a party, and that these rich should help me so I can sit on my ass and do nothing.

    Tell me, why is it every time I meet someone who is unemployed they are drunk? Where do they get the money to buy booze? Booze is a luxury they should not be buying while getting drunk and complaining about how expensive it is and they are going to lose their house.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    If I am reading right, you started the personal attacks.....not on myself, but against the homeless population by stating they are mostly druggies and alcoholics. And besides, I call it like I see it, and yes....you are an inconsiderate jackass who thinks solely of himself.
    No, I made an observation about the homeless, I didn't attack any posters here.

    It isn't against the forum rules to make a statement about the homeless based off of real personal experience.

    And no, I don't think solely of myself, I have 2 children who I have to look out for and protect and ensure that they have the best opportunities in America, which means Im not giving five bucks to some homeless bum to go buy a pint of Maddog when I can put it in my child's piggy bank.


    EDIT: Your continued use of personal attacks against me is noted.
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    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    No, I made an observation about the homeless, I didn't attack any posters here.

    It isn't against the forum rules to make a statement about the homeless based off of real personal experience.

    And no, I don't think solely of myself, I have 2 children who I have to look out for and protect and ensure that they have the best opportunities in America, which means Im not giving five bucks to some homeless bum to go buy a pint of Maddog when I can put it in my child's piggy bank.


    EDIT: Your continued use of personal attacks against me is noted.
    Obviously you have your opinion regarding this situation, and I have mine, and apparently neither of us are going to change our beliefs, so I am done commenting regarding this issue.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    Ok, once again, it's a suggestion based on humane beliefs.
    Why would he take your advice ? how can your advice on this matter mean anything >?

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    Based on the beliefs that helping others in less fortunate situations is a good thing.
    Why ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    And yes, if I were to have accumulated over 300 million dollars, I would help other people out more so than I do now.
    You can claim this, and it might be true, but either way, I am just glad you are on to a topic you have a right to comment on.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    I am not in a position to help much, but I give what I can when I can, which is what originally made America a great country, but ultimately we are in a reversal of morals and beliefs that is allowing us to deteriorate from within.
    What if I say your faceless charity and expectation of entitlements are exactly the cause of deterioration ? I think you should help someone because you love them, or they helped you. Just being poor is the worst kind of reason. Faceless charity builds parasites. Charity that requires a name and a face and ongoing honorable behavior rebuilds people.

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    What if I say your faceless charity and expectation of entitlements are exactly the cause of deterioration ? I think you should help someone because you love them, or they helped you. Just being poor is the worst kind of reason. Faceless charity builds parasites. Charity that requires a name and a face and ongoing honorable behavior rebuilds people.
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