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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    If you really think that is a good thing to do, you should go get the 300 million and throw it into the ever sucking black hole of human need. Hearing your take on what he should do with his 300 million, is as pompous as it is meaningless. To put it bluntly, go out and help one someone, and you will have done more to promote a "humane" world, than you will trying to lay a guilt trip on this feller.
    It's a fact that 1% of the worlds population holds 80% of the worlds wealth.....
    So please explain to me how the average working class citizen, from ANY country, is going to end up in the top 1% "a position to help others"

    I didn't say that he should not have bought the boat....I simply said that if he's got that much money, why not help people out. That doesn't mean give all his life earnings "probably got it by ripping the average citizen off, like our health insurance companies do", but he should at least do something to help out other people in less fortunate situations. This is not trying to lay a "guilt-trip" on him......the only reason for anyone to think that would be they have a guilty conscious.


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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Humane...you mean like contracting for the construction of a massive ship so that hundreds of shipyard workers can have jobs, feed their families, pay for their health care, put their kids through school, and expand the economy?

    Where do you think the three hundred megabucks went?
    Once again, I did not say he should not have bought the yacht. I simply said, if you have that much money, why not help other people out. You may argue that by buying the yacht it created jobs or this and that.....however, I'm pretty sure that the shipyard who built it probably didn't hire any extra workers to construct the ship, and if they did, as soon as this ship was completed they probably lay-ed those same workers out putting them right back in the same financial situation they were already in.

    I did say the yacht was sweet, and yes he can do with his money whatever he wants. He was able to dump 300 million into that yacht alone, obviously that amount doesn't come close to what his total net worth is.......so if he were a decent human being, he would help other people out some. Just by me saying this does not mean he has not helped other people out, which I hope he has.......


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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    That is a stereotypical, and quite pathetic statement to make regarding homeless people.....Just because they are homeless does NOT mean they are drunks, gamblers, or worthless drug addicts. To say that "RARELY" there are any other reasons for homelessness is just ignorant, tell that to all the people who had their mortgage rate increase and lost their homes, tell that to the people who got lay-ed off from their jobs because this crappy economy.... I was homeless at one time, not because ANY of those reasons.....because my parents divorced and my mom was trying to support 2 kids making minimum wage and at the time was not able to find a better job. I have been working full time, usually 60+ hours a week, since I was 12 years old. So don't tell me that just because someone is homeless they are any of those things you described. You are the typical person who is greedy and the same stereotypical type of person who has caused America to begin heading towards a 2nd or 3rd world country.
    So because you lose your house from mortgage suddenly you can't afford to rent a place and you go homeless?
    What happens to all your stuff you had inside the home you couldn't afford?

    Lets be honest about the discussion, the people who lose their homes have ample time to find another place to live, if they go homeless its due to their own ignorance.
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    You cannot be serious? Do you know how many folks have lost their jobs due to this crappy economy? Rare my ass! Wake Up Dude!
    There are plenty of jobs out there that the American people are unwilling to do.

    Its their own fault.
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    Oh...I guess you're right.....America isn't known as the country that pulls together to help each other out....I forgot.
    Exactly. Families are more torn apart than ever. If someone is homeless, they should be able to lean on other family members for support. Your family doesn't want to support you? There must be a serious character flaw that you possess that makes you not worth the trouble to them. I wonder what that could be?

    Either way, its not some rich guy's responsibility to house those who have made poor choices in life.


    So this just proves my point...you are greedy, and because you've been lucky enough to never have to be in a situation like this, probably because you grew up in a wealthy family and never had to struggle like the majority of Americans, you think that if someone is in a financial bind that it's their fault so why help them.....sad....very sad indeed that you can say you'd rather see someone die of starvation than to give them $5.
    Because I, unlike you, actually see what they do with that $5.
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So because you lose your house from mortgage suddenly you can't afford to rent a place and you go homeless?
    What happens to all your stuff you had inside the home you couldn't afford?

    Lets be honest about the discussion, the people who lose their homes have ample time to find another place to live, if they go homeless its due to their own ignorance.
    They would have ample time to find another place to live IF and ONLY IF they have the income to attain another place of residence. Use your brain and quit letting your greed overpower your common sense. Hopefully you'll never have to be in a situation like this as I don't wish it upon anyone.....but then again, some people it might do them a little good. It would make people change their stereotypical and bias views on this issue real quick.


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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    They would have ample time to find another place to live IF and ONLY IF they have the income to attain another place of residence. Use your brain and quit letting your greed overpower your common sense. Hopefully you'll never have to be in a situation like this as I don't wish it upon anyone.....but then again, some people it might do them a little good. It would make people change their stereotypical and bias views on this issue real quick.
    Im having a hard time figuring out why it would be so hard to afford a place to live.

    You don't need cell phones, tv, couches, computers, internet, air conditioning, telephone service, movie rentals, etc, etc, etc.

    Too many people go "broke" due to thinking they need these luxuries.

    As far as your adhominims stating that I am greedy. I make a mere 44k a year, I am also a lowly high school graduate, born into a poor family, but I worked hard to attain what I have today. Its about working hard, budgeting yourself, and not letting stupid **** like alcohol and drugs get in your way. Life is NOT a party, which is something somenoe should have said to these homeless people.
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Exactly. Families are more torn apart than ever. If someone is homeless, they should be able to lean on other family members for support. Your family doesn't want to support you? There must be a serious character flaw that you possess that makes you not worth the trouble to them. I wonder what that could be?

    Either way, its not some rich guy's responsibility to house those who have made poor choices in life.




    Because I, unlike you, actually see what they do with that $5.

    Actually, that's another stereotype because not all families are in the position to help. They can't send money because they are living in poverty themselves. Anyways, who's to say that some people even have families who are still alive. Think about what you're saying before you start jumping into accusations like that. And Yes, I DO see what MOST people do with that $5....and it's not go buy drugs or alcohol. The ones who do that are the ones you see on the street corners begging for money. Find a homeless person who isn't begging and give him $5 and watch what he buys with it. Or better yet, if you are afraid that someone is going to spend the $5 on drugs or alcohol, give them a loaf of bread and a pack of bologna instead.
    You can't automatically assume that just because someone is homeless they've made "poor" choices, you don't even know them...hell you won't even stop to see what that persons name is so how the hell could you know that he made poor choices causing him to be without a home?????
    You are just a greedy bastard lucky enough have never struggled in a situation like this.
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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    It's a fact that 1% of the worlds population holds 80% of the worlds wealth.....
    So what ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    So please explain to me how the average working class citizen, from ANY country, is going to end up in the top 1% "a position to help others"
    Why should I ? You explain it to me. My point was, I will care about your opinion on what to do with 300 million, when you have accumulated 300 million.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    I simply said that if he's got that much money, why not help people out.
    I'll bet, if you tried to accumulate your own 300 million, you would soon find out why not.

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    but he should at least do something to help out other people in less fortunate situations.
    Prove this assertion.

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    Re: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Im having a hard time figuring out why it would be so hard to afford a place to live.

    You don't need cell phones, tv, couches, computers, internet, air conditioning, telephone service, movie rentals, etc, etc, etc.

    Too many people go "broke" due to thinking they need these luxuries.

    As far as your adhominims stating that I am greedy. I make a mere 44k a year, I am also a lowly high school graduate, born into a poor family, but I worked hard to attain what I have today. Its about working hard, budgeting yourself, and not letting stupid **** like alcohol and drugs get in your way. Life is NOT a party, which is something somenoe should have said to these homeless people.
    You are right...people don't need cell phones, tv, couches, or any of that ****.....however, just because you work your ass off for 65+ hours a week like I have done since I was 12 years old to help my mom pay the bills, doesn't mean that you'll be lucky enough to make $44k a year...which by the way is about 5 times the amount considered to be living in poverty for a family of 4......and these homeless people don't think life is a party, maybe just the ones you see begging on the street corners, but who's to say they didn't become that way because they are giving up due to inconsiderate jackasses like yourself?


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