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Mousavi wins Iran election with 65 percent of vote: top aide

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Mousavi would have been better for Iran than Ahmadinejad
 
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Hezbollah came out of the war looking as it was the victor, Very well done to withstand from Israel's full frontal assult. Got a murderer and prisoners in exchange of the two dead soldiers.

This doesn't answer my question.

The Mi6 and report itself stated it.

They were radicalized in Mosque in UK, Flew to Pakistan and got training and came back prepared to kill.

They were radicalized in a Mosque whose leadership doesn't consider itself to be a part of the U.K. but part of dar al-Islam and seek to bring the U.K. into the fold of dar al-Islam through offensive Jihad. That is not domestic terrorism that is a foreign entity operating domestically.

I doubt it, if there was no Israel there would be no Hamas

Hamas is simply a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood.

because no Israel would mean no need for Palestinians to turn to terror,

Except eliminating Jahilliya through offensive Jihad.

no hezbollah as Lebanon occupation wouldn't have occured to trigger its existence,

The Iranian revolution triggered its existence.

no troops in Saudi Arabia and Osama bin laden wouldn't have been radicalized as that was the cause along with Afghan war ...

The cause of OBL's radicalization is the Wahhabist death cult blended with the teaching of Sayyid Qutb. The radicalization of Muslim youth has nothing to do with the foreign policy of other nations but the domestic policies of the Ummah.
 
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This doesn't answer my question.

Perhaps because there is no answer?
Israel attacked because of rockets.
Palestinians would argue they rocketed because of border closed or occupation.
Israel would argue ...
And it goes on :roll:

The Iranian revolution triggered its existence.

Wrong.

Hezbollah - or Party of God - emerged in Lebanon in the early 1980s and became the region's leading radical Islamic movement, determined to drive Israeli troops from Lebanon.

Hezbollah was conceived in 1982 by a group of clerics after the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Who are Hezbollah?

They were inspired by Iran but it was Israel which triggered its existence.

Oh and to this:
That event occurred not because of UK backing of the US in Iraq

7/7 happened because of Iraq.
If UK did not back US, We would not have been bombed.

A former head of MI5 today describes the response to the September 11 2001 attacks on the US as a "huge overreaction" and says the invasion of Iraq influenced young men in Britain who turned to terrorism.

Don't take it personal if i believe the former head of MI5 over you

radicalization of Muslim youth has nothing to do with the foreign policy of other nations but the domestic policies of the Ummah.

It has everything to do with foreign policy

We have no ummah. Next.
 
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I'm not about to start on who started the wars but the bottom line is Israel is partly responsible by its actions in enabling and helping Iran gain its influence across the ME
It made Egypt, Saudi Arabia etc. look weak and pathetic and it was Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas who came out of it looking pretty good.
Hezbollah came out good only in certain sectors in the Muslim world, specifically the retarded sectors.
A lot of Lebanese realize that when your state lies in ruins and Hezbollah lost about 6 times more combatants than Israel did, it means that Hezbollah isn't capable of ****.

And about Hamas, are you serious?
That's like the Persians celebrating their victory over the 300 Spartans from the movie 300.
"PALESTINIANS, WE MAY HAVE LOST OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE, BUT LOOK, WE GOT 13 ISRAELIS KILLED".
This is just ridiculous that you actually believe they came out good. :doh
Actually you citied the London bombings.
I am telling you facts. It was young British Muslims, not Al Qaeda, not Taliban, not Iran

No they can't, they couldn't even make a decent bomb and had to dump it let alone get a hold of Nukes. Do you know how big those things are?
Refer to the last part of post number 25.
 
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Hezbollah came out good only in certain sectors in the Muslim world, specifically the retarded sectors.
A lot of Lebanese realize that when your state lies in ruins and Hezbollah lost about 6 times more combatants than Israel did, it means that Hezbollah isn't capable of ****.

Which is why Hezbollah still control parts of Lebanon and even has the next leader willing to make a alliance with them?

Not popular at all, oh no.

Not the 13 Israelis but the fact that they survived a Israeli operation, that is something seeing Israel set out to destroy Hamas and thus it failed its task.
 
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Which is why Hezbollah still control parts of Lebanon and even has the next leader willing to make a alliance with them?
Politics.
As you can see, they gained no more seats after the war than they had before it.
Not the 13 Israelis but the fact that they survived a Israeli operation, that is something seeing Israel set out to destroy Hamas and thus it failed its task.
Israel never stated that her target was to destroy Hamas, (that would require her to destroy the Shebba hospital where Hamas has made its HQ at) hence, your statement holds no water.
 
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Politics.
As you can see, they gained no more seats after the war than they had before it.

Israel never stated that her target was to destroy Hamas, (that would require her to destroy the Shebba hospital where Hamas has made its HQ at) hence, your statement holds no water.

But their prominence has. They are legitimate.
Even the next leader has said they will not disarm Hezbollah.

Your right my mistake.
Israel meant to stop rockets being launched .... Did it work?
 
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But their prominence has. They are legitimate.
Even the next leader has said they will not disarm Hezbollah
He didn't say they will not disarm Hezbollah, he said he'd leave it for the people to decide.
Your right my mistake.
Israel meant to stop rockets being launched .... Did it work?
Rockets are still falling.
But from 30-80 rockets per day to 1-3 rockets per month, that's quite the achievement.
 
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Perhaps because there is no answer?
Israel attacked because of rockets.
Palestinians would argue they rocketed because of border closed or occupation.
Israel would argue ...
And it goes on :roll:

The Israeli government would be criminally negligent not to respond with force to attacks against their civilians.



Your knowledge of the exportation of the Iranian revolution is quite limited, Hezbollah wasn't just inspired by Iran it was created by Iran.

7/7 happened because of Iraq.

No 7/7 happened because of the Global Jihad.

If UK did not back US, We would not have been bombed.

Keep dreaming, the Islamists attack everyday in every corner of the world for one reason and one reason only Islamic Imperialist expansionism for the restoration of the caliphate. It's been happening for fifteen hundred years.

There could be no U.S. and no Israel and still there would be a global Jihad. It has nothing absolutely NOTHING to do with what we have done but with what THEY want!

Don't take it personal if i believe the former head of MI5 over you

Ya because they were fine upstanding young men before the war in Iraq. :roll:

It has everything to do with foreign policy

Ya their foreign policy IE to bring about one world under puritanical Islam in order to combat Jahilliya through offensive Jihad.

We have no ummah. Next.

:roll: ya tell that to the Islamists. They are united in the cause of offensive Jihad and pan-Islamism.
 
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A high turnout is usually not good for the incumbent. So WTF?

Not necessarily just that. The high youth turnout which apparently was very-anti Disco Stu suggests that he was doomed. Especially since youth make up something like 35% of the population in Iran. The election was clearly rigged. The question now is was it rigged before or was it rigged during when the Mullahs were receiving reports of ballot data?
 
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IMO, the references to ACORN and the tightly-fought Bush-Gore 2000 election kind of take away from a very serious situation that is unfolding in Iran. It appears very likely that massive fraud was involved, violence has erupted out of frustration with what transpired, and a "reign of terror"-style repression is plausible.

With respect to the geopolitical issues concerning Iran, nothing has changed for the better. Ayatollah Khamenei remains entrenched in power and holds the key decisionmaking authority. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad remains in power and may well become even more implacable and confrontational in the wake of his "victory" (never mind how it was achieved).
 
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Ahmadinejad scores big win in Iran vote | Comcast.net

Israel has had its fears assured. Looks like either they will have to attack on their own and hand the west a war or the west will have to back up its rhetoric instead of watching them develop nuclear weapons and accept a war.

Iran will play Obama like a fiddle....

Do you even have a nano of a clue of what you are talking about with thinking what a 'great' thing it would be for Israel to attack Iran ? Ok I heard enough I didn't think you were putting forth a rational thought.

Assuming that all the refueling support and fly-over persmissions are setup and Israel does attack the nuke production site the best that will come about is a delay. What the Iraniacs will do is harden and secure there sites better and return to production in a few years. Meanwhile Iran could disrupt the oild supply so badly that the western economies would tank for sure.

There has to be a stealthy way of doing what needs to be done and Israel 's finger prints cannot be on it. Neither can US finger prints be on it. Israel is so tied with the US that it is for all practical purposes the 51st state so we will be blamed for anything that the Israeli's do.

The other thing to consider is who does a nuclear armed Iran really threathen ? It's not really Israel, it's Iran's closest neighbor's and the oil shipping lanes. Isn't the threath to Israel coming from HAMAS ? Who is supporting HAMAS. Iran is not going to attack Israel with nukes.

If I was Iraq, Pakstan, or the Emerates I would not want a nuclear Iran.

Rgarding Israel Iran will continue to do what it does best - run it's mouth. That is why I do not think that it is an Israeli issue.
 
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I hope Obama brings enough lye for the Israelis when he goes kissing Irans ass.
 
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Now there's a rigged election. Record disapproval ratings. High youth voter turnout.

And Disco Stu wins?

R-I-G-G-E-D.

The 67% for Disco Stu is clearly rigged. If the Mullahs were not scared, they wouldn't have shutdown text messaging, facebook, Myspace and other non-controlled news outlets.

Indeed.

The Mullahs and the Ayetioletbowl are worthless ****bags in need of removal and dirt naps.
 
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