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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    What gets me is that Obama said those that prefer their current health care plan could keep it. That's a bold-faced lie and he knows it. If public health care comes about, the health insurance companies as we know them will dry up. We won't have a choice.

    And he knows it, the liar.

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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Shep Dawg View Post
    So is it your contention that health care was working great prior to Jan 20th?
    How do you see health care in the US as "not working"?

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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    What gets me is that Obama said those that prefer their current health care plan could keep it. That's a bold-faced lie and he knows it. If public health care comes about, the health insurance companies as we know them will dry up. We won't have a choice.

    And he knows it, the liar.
    What exactly is bad about insurance companies drying up? Insurance companies are the reason medical expenses are so outrageous and have killed the medical free market.
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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Shep Dawg View Post
    So is it your contention that health care was working great prior to Jan
    20th?

    Again, I ask. What is the alternative? We can sit here and bash Obama on one hand and have people defend him on the other. The question isn't whether or not you agree with Obama. The question is "what is the alternative"? What would you recomend as a viable alternative to the health care situation in this country? Gov't hasn't been socializing health care for decades. yet in the free market, we now have a system that doesn't work.

    Do you have a better plan, or do you just bash Obama in every post?


    Works better then Socialized medicine under the liar Obama.


    Alternative?..get rid of Obama and get a REAL President.
    Until then Leave it Alone. Its not broke.

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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    What exactly is bad about insurance companies drying up? Insurance companies are the reason medical expenses are so outrageous and have killed the medical free market.
    But without them, there'll be no other option than government-sponsored healthcare.

    Which is exactly Obama's plan. He's Vladamir Putin to the 'T'.

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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    But without them, there'll be no other option than government-sponsored healthcare.

    Which is exactly Obama's plan. He's Vladamir Putin to the 'T'.
    No without them medical expenses back to the level's dictated by a free market. Doctor's would need to be competitive with their pricing instead of secretive.

    Currently doctors charge outrageous amounts for procedures because the insurance companies want prices to be so high that the consumer is FORCED to depend on insurance coverage.
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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    No without them medical expenses back to the level's dictated by a free market. Doctor's would need to be competitive with their pricing instead of secretive.

    Currently doctors charge outrageous amounts for procedures because the insurance companies want prices to be so high that the consumer is FORCED to depend on insurance coverage.
    And of course, the government is not notorious at all for wasting money, so this will be incredibly efficient for us.

    I can't wait to see my taxes go up 10 percent to pay for this, which will be far more than I pay for medical insurance.

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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Shep Dawg View Post
    What is the alternative?
    Get rid of tax breaks for employer-funded health care. It's ridiculous, people aren't going to choose a job based solely on health care benefits, so they're basically stuck with the health insurance which their job of choice happens to provide.

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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And of course, the government is not notorious at all for wasting money, so this will be incredibly efficient for us.

    I can't wait to see my taxes go up 10 percent to pay for this, which will be far more than I pay for medical insurance.
    How would the consumer market remove insurance companies from the mix without help from the government? Should 300 million people just deny seeking health care in the hopes that the medical industry will side with consumers?

    Though I don't agree taxes should be raised at all for any of this government spending. I highly doubt individual taxes would be increased by 10%. We may see 1-3%.
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    Re: Obama declares that it's time to fix health care

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    How do you see health care in the US as "not working"?

    Sky rocketing health care costs, and mass reductions in coverage. Millions of working Americans uninsured. Too many end up in the Gov't system anyway. Only difference is we're then paying for their health care.
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