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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So we shouldn't complain until after he ruins us?
    Of course not. We should complain when he actually does something. This is nothing, not something.

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. The President is not a king, and if others don't have the balls to stand up for what they believe in that is THEIR FAULT.
    See, but here's the thing, all of this doesn't even matter. The president causes changes through suggestions, suggestions for the worse. This is why the president should not be suggesting.

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    When you are saying someone doesn't have a right to speak, that is Fascist and that is what you are saying to Obama.
    Dear Leader isn't "someone", he's "government". So, no, he does not have a right to speak, and no, that is not fascism.

    Learn to do what Dear Leader has never done.....homework.

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Of course not. We should complain when he actually does something. This is nothing, not something.
    First they came for the Communists but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists but I was not one of them, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews but I was not Jewish so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.
    It was "nothing" at first back then, as well. History does not look kindly on your insistent ostrich-ism.

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    It was "nothing" at first back then, as well. History does not look kindly on your insistent ostrich-ism.
    He has not come for the communists yet....

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He has not come for the communists yet....
    He's come for the capitalists.

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If you don't know the difference between telling and suggesting, this conversation is hopeless. LEARN THE DIFFERENCE, then come back.
    I'm having to ask myself if you're intentionally being naive, if you're just ignorant of this, or if its something else but let me try to illustrate it for you.

    There are two people, both are making a suggestion that you move out of your house.

    One comes to your door, knocks on it, and goes "hey, I'd like to use your land, will you move out of your house?"

    The other comes to your door, knocks on it, has a pistol on his hip, a knife on his side, and two guys behind him with shock guns, and goes "We'd like to have your land. We're not going to take it, but we highly suggest you move out of it."

    By the way you're talking here, those things apparently seem EXACTLY the same to you.

    The GOVERNMENT....most specifically the President of the United States of America...giving people a suggestion like this is FARRRRR different than some random ass citizen saying "we think this should happen". This goes doubly when these people aren't simply speaking of their personal views, but speaking from the standpoint of the administration, IE the Government.

    A suggestion, with the possible threat of force if said suggestion is not followed, is intimidation not just simply a suggestion.

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Obama knows best children.
    Hm.

    What's it called when the state takes over an industry?

    What's it called again whent The state owns the means of producing and distribuing wealth, and redistributes weath through the welfare system?

    Put them together -- don't you get nationalism/socialism?

    Hm.

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    He has not come for the communists yet....
    No, just corporate CEOs. He most assuredly has come for them. He fired Rick Waggoner, remember? And now he's targeting every other exec's pocketbook.

    Dear Leader has come for the corporate CEOs. Dear Leader has come for automobile companies. Dear Leader has come for foreign companies seeking to do business in the US.

    Next he will come for energy companies. Next he will come for doctors and healers. Next he will come for small business people. In the ineptitude and evil of his agenda he has explicitly stated his intent to come for all of these, and more.

    When he finally comes for you, who will be left to hear your complaints?

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    Re: Administration: Rein in pay in US private sector

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hm.

    What's it called when the state takes over an industry?

    What's it called again whent The state owns the means of producing and distribuing wealth, and redistributes weath through the welfare system?

    Put them together -- don't you get nationalism/socialism?

    Hm.
    Fascism is a lot like socialism, despite what the revisionists say.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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