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Thread: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Only net tax-payers and veterans should be allowed to vote. Net tax-consumers get to vote when they stop leaching off the system.
    Works for me.

    It makes no sense that people that don't pay taxes are allowed to vote themselves money from the treasury.

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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The uninformed, uneducated will make decisions that are not always in the best interests of the country.
    We've noticed. The Messiah got elected, remember?

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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    An incredibly elitist sentiment. For one thing, most Americans are educated and only need to be minimally informed to make a decision.
    Yeah, we noticed. The Messiah got elected on the basis of the least informed most educated populace the world has ever seen.

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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by BaZaRr BeAtZ View Post
    As far as cold hard facts go, our government tells the American people what they want us to know. We as American citizens are afraid of our government, that's why we do nothing about it. We can't stand up without the fear of being place in jail or being heavily fined.

    "When the government fears the people, you have liberty. When the people fear the government, or irs for that matter, you have tyranny" (Thomas Jefferson, author of the Declaration of Independence of the United States)
    Did Thomas Jefferson really single out the IRS?

    That's pretty amazing.

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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    We've noticed. The Messiah got elected, remember?
    Indeed. More telling is the incumbency rate in America. We keep electing crooks and people who give us the shaft. Congress rarely sees major shifts, especially now that we have a defacto one party system. Does the mass of voters realize this? I'm betting not. The last election's third party aggregate vote was negligible.
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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    The average American knows nothing about economics, so that 45% doesn't mean much.
    Your average Democrat politician is clueless about economics which is why they cannot balance a budget; so I guess their opinions don't mean much either?

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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And this is why democracy sucks. The uninformed, uneducated will make decisions that are not always in the best interests of the country. Remember that that hard, necessary decisions are rarely the popular ones. Thus, the uneducated, uninformed who perceive such decisions to be bad will vote against them in election and we'd be worse off in the long run. While I disagree that we should just outright ignore the population, others have made convincing arguments that letting the masses decide policy by electing candidates who disagree will likely lead to poor outcomes, hence why democracy sucks, at least in America.
    There you have it folks, Democracy sucks, well at least in America, so this begs the question from our forum Economic and Political “wiz” kid; where does Democracy NOT suck as much?

    If Democracy is such a bad idea, what should we replace it with; a despotic regime? How about a dictatorship or a theocracy? Maybe Communism would work better; anything is better that doesn’t require all those dumb people to vote right OC?


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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Your average Democrat politician is clueless about economics which is why they cannot balance a budget; so I guess their opinions don't mean much either?
    Let's not forget about Bush and the other Republicans during his term who also voted to expand the budget. Those politicians don't know much about economics either.

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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Let's not forget about Bush and the other Republicans during his term who also voted to expand the budget. Those politicians don't know much about economics either.
    WRONG; you forgot why they spent the money. Let’s remember why: they voted to spend money to deal with devastation of post 9-11, they voted to spend money fighting two wars in the ME and they voted to spend money to help the Democrat controlled city of New Orleans after their Democrat politicians failed their citizens after it was devastated by hurricane Katrina.

    That stated, also while Republicans were in charge the deficit was decreasing but then expanded greatly after Democrats once more took control.

    Let's also remember that the ONLY congress to balance a budget in the last FIVE decades was a REPUBLICAN controlled congress.


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    Re: 45% Say Cancel Rest of Stimulus Spending

    ^^No Child Left Behind? The new medicare spending bill? Faith-based initiatives? Come on, Bush was not a small-government proponent in the slightest.

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