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S.F. OKs toughest recycling law in U.S.

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Why is it a bad thing when one religious groups wants to make laws reflecting their religios views but when some whack jobs who believe in the man made global warming fairy tale its somehow acceptable for them to impose their religious views on everyone else?


S.F. OKs toughest recycling law in U.S.

Throwing orange peels, coffee grounds and grease-stained pizza boxes in the trash will be against the law in San Francisco, and could even lead to a fine.

The Board of Supervisors voted 9-2 Tuesday to approve Mayor Gavin Newsom's proposal for the most comprehensive mandatory composting and recycling law in the country. It's an aggressive push to cut greenhouse gas emissions and have the city sending nothing to landfills or incinerators by 2020.

"San Francisco has the best recycling and composting programs in the nation," Newsom said, praising the board's vote on a plan that some residents had decried as heavy-handed and impractical. "We can build on our success."

The ordinance is expected to take effect this fall.

The legislation calls for every residence and business in the city to have three separate color-coded bins for waste: blue for recycling, green for compost and black for trash.

Failing to properly sort your refuse could result in a fine after several warnings, but Newsom and other officials say fines will only be levied in the most egregious cases.

Fines for almost all residential customers and many small businesses - anyone who generates less than a cubic yard of refuse a week - are initially capped at $100. Businesses that don't have proper bins face escalating fines up to $500.

There is a moratorium on fines until at least July 2011 for tenants and owners of multifamily buildings or multitenant commercial properties to get people used to composting. Buildings where recycling carts won't fit can get a waiver.

"In any scenario there will be repeated notices and phone calls before we even start talking about fines," said Jared Blumenfeld, head of the city's Department of the Environment. "We don't want to fine people."
 
Let me get this straight: orange peels are going to be recycled?

Eewwwww.
 
The people of San Francisco obviously want this or they wouldn't have voted for these councilmen and this mayor. It's their city. What they do no matter how inane it may be doesn't effect me.
 
Why is it a bad thing when one religious groups wants to make laws reflecting their religios views but when some whack jobs who believe in the man made global warming fairy tale its somehow acceptable for them to impose their religious views on everyone else?


S.F. OKs toughest recycling law in U.S.

Throwing orange peels, coffee grounds and grease-stained pizza boxes in the trash will be against the law in San Francisco, and could even lead to a fine.

The Board of Supervisors voted 9-2 Tuesday to approve Mayor Gavin Newsom's proposal for the most comprehensive mandatory composting and recycling law in the country. It's an aggressive push to cut greenhouse gas emissions and have the city sending nothing to landfills or incinerators by 2020.

"San Francisco has the best recycling and composting programs in the nation," Newsom said, praising the board's vote on a plan that some residents had decried as heavy-handed and impractical. "We can build on our success."

The ordinance is expected to take effect this fall.

The legislation calls for every residence and business in the city to have three separate color-coded bins for waste: blue for recycling, green for compost and black for trash.

Failing to properly sort your refuse could result in a fine after several warnings, but Newsom and other officials say fines will only be levied in the most egregious cases.

Fines for almost all residential customers and many small businesses - anyone who generates less than a cubic yard of refuse a week - are initially capped at $100. Businesses that don't have proper bins face escalating fines up to $500.

There is a moratorium on fines until at least July 2011 for tenants and owners of multifamily buildings or multitenant commercial properties to get people used to composting. Buildings where recycling carts won't fit can get a waiver.

"In any scenario there will be repeated notices and phone calls before we even start talking about fines," said Jared Blumenfeld, head of the city's Department of the Environment. "We don't want to fine people."

All this will mean is that people will have to bribe the trash men more.

Laws like this are ridiculous and I can't believe they can be legal.
 
There are many cities that have organic waste programs. Toronto is one example. All organic waste goes into compost bins that the city picks up weekly, just like they do the trash. The waste goes to compost sites where it breaks down and they later re-sell it as viable fertilizer.

If it's what SF wants, then I'm not one to judge.
 
The Religious Nut-Wings can have their laws, as soon as they provide empirical evidence that their laws are truth.
 
This is one of those "laws" most people will ignore.
Like the attempted Foie Gras ban in Michigan or the Cell Phone bans while driving in many states.
 
The people of San Francisco obviously want this or they wouldn't have voted for these councilmen and this mayor. It's their city. What they do no matter how inane it may be doesn't effect me.
Glad you think this is inane as well. I think it is too.

Yea, the entire city of SF has gone into "the stupid bin". They have untill next elections to redeem themselves.
 
The Religious Nut-Wings can have their laws, as soon as they provide empirical evidence that their laws are truth.
You mean: "The Tree-hugging whackos"? Yea, I agree with that statement too.
 
You mean: "The Tree-hugging whackos"? Yea, I agree with that statement too.

As far as I am concerned there is empirical evidence for the tree-hugging whackos... even if people dispute.

I have not seen even a decent attempt by the religious nut-wings.
 
The entire premise of the OP is flawed because recycling is not a "religion" and there are laws that provide against the government involvement in religion which is why religions are not allowed to use government to foist their views on society in general.

That said...I am all in favor of this type of legislation.

Why should I have to live with your garbage simply because you are too lazy to sort it?
 
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That said...I am all in favor of this type of legislation.

If only they would legislate against the half dressed transvestites holding up traffic on castro and 19th...ew. People are trying to get to work.
 
If only they would legislate against the half dressed transvestites holding up traffic on castro and 19th...ew. People are trying to get to work.

That's a whole other issue.
 
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