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Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

TheNextEra said:
If you claim to be a member, then yes.
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I'm associated with a check I write to them, a meeting once a month if I even attend, and some silly handshake. Oh, and a ring that I wear that night, once a month. Perhaps some charity they do when I make a special contribution. Other than that, not at all.
 
jallman said:
I'm associated with a check I write to them, a meeting once a month if I even attend, and some silly handshake. Oh, and a ring that I wear that night, once a month. Perhaps some charity they do when I make a special contribution. Other than that, not at all.
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Then if you didn't want to be associated with them, you wouldn't send them a check and you wouldn't wear a ring. DENOUNCE them if you disagree with them.

Otherwise, YES, you are associated with them. If they do something you don't agree with, then leave the group, DENOUNCE them.
 
TheNextEra said:
Then if you didn't want to be associated with them, you wouldn't send them a check and you wouldn't wear a ring. DENOUNCE them if you disagree with them.

Otherwise, YES, you are associated with them. If they do something you don't agree with, then leave the group, DENOUNCE them.
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Nope. It's not as cut and dry as all that. I appreciate some of the work they do and a family tradition of the men becoming masons but I have no regard for all the secret Da Vinci Code crap they a purported to be a part of. None. :shrug:
 
Looks like Miss Prejean's problem with keeping appointments continues...


Carrie Prejean Gets Fired—Again
For the second time in a week, embattled beauty queen Carrie Prejean has lost a job.

This time, she was axed by clothing brand Sledge USA. Prejean had been slated to be the spokesmodel for the line's upcoming fall campaign, but according to brand manager Vered Nisim, Prejean didn't hold up her end of the deal.

"She did not keep her appointments at all. She refused to confirm a time and date, even though we were on a very tight schedule," Nisim tells E! News, adding that "it had nothing to do with her being let go as Miss California."
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jallman said:
Nope. It's not as cut and dry as all that. I appreciate some of the work they do and a family tradition of the men becoming masons but I have no regard for all the secret Da Vinci Code crap they a purported to be a part of. None. :shrug:
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Purported? I'm sorry when you wanna talk facts let me know.

Otherwise yes, anything they do NOW, that you disagree with and want no part of, you would DENOUNCE them, and if not you are associated with them.
 
Glinda said:
Looks like Miss Prejean's problem with keeping appointments continues...
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Which has what to do with anything in this thread? Your rabid hatred of the girl is most amusing. Your angst brings me great pleasure.
 
TheNextEra said:
Purported? I'm sorry when you wanna talk facts let me know.

Otherwise yes, anything they do NOW, that you disagree with and want no part of, you would DENOUNCE them, and if not you are associated with them.
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Nope. It's not all that simple.
 
jallman said:
Nope. It's not all that simple.
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It is that simple, if a group does something you don't agree with, you DENOUNCE that.

If not, you are associated with it.
 
TheNextEra said:
It is that simple, if a group does something you don't agree with, you DENOUNCE that.

If not, you are associated with it.
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Perhaps in your myopic perception. But not here in the real world.
 
jallman said:
Perhaps in your myopic perception. But not here in the real world.
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Maybe so, but I am not alone and Prejean is paying the price.

Call it what you will, but your opinion of it is not what is happening. Enjoy. :2wave:
 
TheNextEra said:
Maybe so, but I am not alone and Prejean is paying the price.

Call it what you will, but your opinion of it is not what is happening. Enjoy. :2wave:
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I never enjoy watching you beat your head against a wall. Never. :mrgreen:
 
jallman said:
I never enjoy watching you beat your head against a wall. Never. :mrgreen:
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Never beating my head against the wall, only enjoying those trying to defend her do so. :mrgreen:
 
TheNextEra said:
Never beating my head against the wall, only enjoying those trying to defend her do so. :mrgreen:
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I also haven't technically defended her. Just haven't been in a mad rush to condemn her.

Edit: similar to the same situation with the teacher in Kansas.
 
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Caroline Michelle speaks (begins at 2:25).

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Glinda said:
Caroline Michelle speaks (begins at 2:25).

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So congratulations. You just succeeded in proving my point. "They respect marriages and people who respect marriages."

So, what I see here is that this woman was far from extreme until the hysterical caterwauling extreme pushed her into a position where she had to seek social support from a rather exrtreme group. :shrug:

I can't say I hold that against her.
 
I guess being the official spokeswoman for an organization means she doesn't speak for them, or represent them, or represent their views......

:spin:

I'm so dizzy!
 
NDNdancer said:
I guess being the official spokeswoman for an organization means she doesn't speak for them, or represent them, or represent their views......

:spin:

I'm so dizzy!
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I won't argue with that last notion.
 
American said:
What's wrong with close-minded? She has an opinion, and her mind is closed on it. I suppose you have no opinions because you are open minded? Therefore you have already contradicted yourself in your statement.
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She wishes to repress peoples rights. I have already covered this so keep up:doh
 
jallman said:
So still nothing to support the idea that she wants to repress peoples' rights?
Didn't think so.
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She opposes gay marriage! That is it. Pretty Simple Dude! :(
 
Cardinal said:
And be a trophy wife? That seems like the consolation prize, something that Miss California can look forward to. No, Carrie has name recognition now -- that's gotta be good for a book or at least a few roles.
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A book... ha! That is a good one, thanks for the laugh.

Prejean in her own words:
I think it's great that Americans are able to choose one or the other. We live in a land that you can choose same-sex marriage or opposite marriage and, you know what, in my country and my family I think that I believe that a marriage should be between a man and a woman. No offense to anyone out there but that's how I was raised and that's how I think it should be between a man and a woman.​
:doh

I am glad that she established that she can think ("I think that I believe" - ha!). I had my doubts. Though given she got her facts wrong in the first couple sentences and that her concluding remarks contradict her opening remarks, we might have to leave that open to debate.

Anyway, I think a porno production is what you meant (hopefully).
 
Am I the only one who is now tired of this Carrie Prejean? Leave the fine ass bitch alone damn it. She's a backwards hick. Let her have her opinion. Actually passing gay marriage is a lot higher on my list of priorities then what some air headed trick has to say about an issue she has absolutely nothing to do with. For ****s sake. She's not even married. Should we even care what she has to say about marriage?

And on a 2nd note. Perez Hilton is a fat trick.
 
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