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Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

TheNextEra said:
So a group that prevents gay marriage from happening is using her name and she won't deny it?

Come on, sell me another story?
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I'm not trying to sell you anything here. You are trying to sell me on the idea that the woman meant something besides the answer she gave. That's on you and Glinda to prove. :shrug:

I'm sorry, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove me wrong. I even do that when it's someone I disagree with.
 
Glinda said:
Done and done.

How very unfortunate the facts bork up your bent idea of reality.
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You can keep mindlessly repeating the points you made, but they still do not offer anything more than your spin and conjecture. The only thing borked up here is your ability to present a coherent argument.
 
jallman said:
I'm not trying to sell you anything here. You are trying to sell me on the idea that the woman meant something besides the answer she gave. That's on you and Glinda to prove. :shrug:

I'm sorry, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt until they prove me wrong. I even do that when it's someone I disagree with.
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If she didn't agree with the groups standing then should would ask them not to use her name. However, she doesn't disagree with them and has ALLOWED them to use her name.

Again, sell your story to someone who is buying. I'm not.
 
TheNextEra said:
If she didn't agree with the groups standing then should would ask them not to use her name. However, she doesn't disagree with them and has ALLOWED them to use her name.

Again, sell your story to someone who is buying. I'm not.
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And again, I'm not selling you anything. You are hell bent on convincing me of the ill will that someone who hasn't expressed any supposedly has. I'm the one not buying what's being pushed like crack at a schoolyard. I know what the woman actually said and I find nothing wrong with that.
 
jallman said:
I'm not trying to sell you anything here. You are trying to sell me on the idea that the woman meant something besides the answer she gave. That's on you and Glinda to prove.
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Hey Chuckles, I'm afraid I've never said she "meant something besides the answer she gave."

Wanna try again?
 
TheNextEra said:
If she didn't agree with the groups standing then should would ask them not to use her name. However, she doesn't disagree with them and has ALLOWED them to use her name.

Again, sell your story to someone who is buying. I'm not.
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How do we know that she is even aware that she is on their website?
 
jallman said:
And again, I'm not selling you anything. You are hell bent on convincing me of the ill will that someone who hasn't expressed any supposedly has. I'm the one not buying what's being pushed like crack at a schoolyard. I know what the woman actually said and I find nothing wrong with that.
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There is a group that is PREVENTING gay marriage, something you said she wasn't a part of, yet she won't tell this group to stop using her name.

Sorry, you are selling BS.
 
TheNextEra said:
There is a group that is PREVENTING gay marriage, something you said she wasn't a part of, yet she won't tell this group to stop using her name.

Sorry, you are selling BS.
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Any evidence she even knows she is on their website?
 
TheNextEra said:
There is a group that is PREVENTING gay marriage, something you said she wasn't a part of, yet she won't tell this group to stop using her name.

Sorry, you are selling BS.
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Sorry, I'm still not selling anything. You're the one trying to convince me, remember.

I'm not convinced.
 
Caine said:
How do we know that she is even aware that she is on their website?
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She would know by now, she has a publicist and a slew of people that are watching her to let her know.

Do you think she is just "one poor lonely ole country gal in the big bad city"?
 
jallman said:
Sorry, I'm still not selling anything. You're the one trying to convince me, remember.

I'm not convinced.
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and I am not convinced of what you said when you say she isn't part of a group preventing gay marriage. You were trying to convince us she is just an innocent lil gal.
 
TheNextEra said:
There is a group that is PREVENTING gay marriage, something you said she wasn't a part of, yet she won't tell this group to stop using her name.

Sorry, you are selling BS.
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I looked through the thread and I'm curious what web site this is you are talking about. Perhaps I missed it in the thread and it would be awfully kind if you reposted it.
 
TheNextEra said:
and I am not convinced of what you said when you say she isn't part of a group preventing gay marriage. You were trying to convince us she is just an innocent lil gal.
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No, that is blatant lying on your part. I stated that I haven't heard anything from her to imply that she is wanting to limit the rights of others.

And I still haven't.
 
TheNextEra said:
She would know by now, she has a publicist and a slew of people that are watching her to let her know.

Do you think she is just "one poor lonely ole country gal in the big bad city"?
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So thats your only evidence that she knows?

How do you know she hasn't already asked them to remove her from their website?
 
jallman said:
No, that is blatant lying on your part. I stated that I haven't heard anything from her to imply that she is wanting to limit the rights of others.

And I still haven't.
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Limit the rights of others to use her as an endorsement? Are you serious?

You know what, you go right ahead. The longer it takes her to not argue this, only makes it worse for her.

Enjoy it.
 
Caine said:
So thats your only evidence that she knows?

How do you know she hasn't already asked them to remove her from their website?
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Because if she didn't want her name on it she would PUBLICLY DENOUNCE IT DUH!
 
TheNextEra said:
Limit the rights of others to use her as an endorsement? Are you serious?

You know what, you go right ahead. The longer it takes her to not argue this, only makes it worse for her.

Enjoy it.
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I never get enjoyment from watching you beat your head against a wall. Never. :mrgreen:
 
jallman said:
I never get enjoyment from watching you beat your head against a wall. Never. :mrgreen:
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I'm not beating my head against the wall for her at all. I know what others think of her and it is only getting worse.

I have nothing to lose or get upset about, she is the one getting known for her wanting to prevent gay marriage and being associated with a group that does it.
 
Uh-oh!

Miss California Carrie Prejean goes to Washington to fight against gay marriage

The battle over the beauty queen is getting uglier.

Miss California USA Carrie Prejean announced Thursday she will star in an anti-gay marriage ad sponsored by the controversial National Organization for Marriage.

"I was attacked for giving my own opinion on stage at a Miss USA contest, and I'm going to do whatever it takes, Matt, to protect marriage," Prejean, 21, told NBC "Today" show host Matt Lauer.

"The National Organization for Marriage basically just respects, um, you know, marriages and people who support it," she said. "That's what I'm here to do today, protect traditional marriage."

Pageant officials called Prejean a disappointing opportunist.
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Oh NOES!

Woman claims she had lesbian affair with Miss California USA Carrie Prejean's mother
Controversy keeps following Miss California USA Carrie Prejean: Now a woman claims to have had a lesbian relationship with the "opposite marriage" crusader's mother.

Valerie Vetrano of Corona, Calif., told Star magazine she and Prejean's mother, Francine Coppola, "dated," and the relationship ended shortly before Carrie Prejean was in the Miss USA competition.

"I did date her," Vetrano, who is openly gay, told ABCNews.com. "I'm not going to deny it, but I'm not going to say anything else." Both Coppola and Prejean declined to comment on the ABC story.

Prejean's parents, whose messy divorce proceedings began in 1996 and lasted nearly a decade, accused each other of having homosexual relationships, according to a series of court documents made public on TMZ.com.
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TheNextEra said:
I'm not beating my head against the wall for her at all. I know what others think of her and it is only getting worse.

I have nothing to lose or get upset about, she is the one getting known for her wanting to prevent gay marriage and being associated with a group that does it.
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You say tomato, I say tomahto. I just love how the opinionated have to crucify a girl for having an opinion. :lol:
 
Glinda said:
Uh-oh!



Oh NOES!
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So she respects traditional marriage and supports those who do. :shrug:

Whatev. That's her right.

I've got plenty more snipe hunts to send you on if you're interested. :lol:
 
jallman said:
You say tomato, I say tomahto. I just love how the opinionated have to crucify a girl for having an opinion. :lol:
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She doesn't hold just an opinion, she is associated with a group that does action for it. :2wave:
 
TheNextEra said:
She doesn't hold just an opinion, she is associated with a group that does action for it. :2wave:
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OK. I am associated with the masons but I'm not part of some grand conspiracy. :shrug:
 
jallman said:
OK. I am associated with the masons but I'm not part of some grand conspiracy. :shrug:
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No, but you're associated with whatever action they take as a group.
 
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