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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    You can ignore the evidence that she has taken action to repress gay rights all you want. Doesn't mean you're right, it just means you're blind. You might want to examine that.
    You can ignore the fact that there is no evidence to support your position. Doesn't mean you're right, it just means you are hysterical. There's really no helping that.

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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    gay rights?

    What are those?

    I couldn't find that section..maybe its in the secret records?
    Nicholas?

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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    gay rights?

    What are those?

    I couldn't find that section..maybe its in the secret records?
    Nicholas?
    Since gays are people, too, I would surmise that gay rights fall under the umbrella of human rights and the civil rights everyone else enjoys.

    There, mystery solved.

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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You can ignore the fact that there is no evidence to support your position. Doesn't mean you're right, it just means you are hysterical. There's really no helping that.
    While you are waiting for the evidence you have asked for, you can answer to your own unsupported claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I have yet to hear anyone make a good argument that places the anti gay marriage crowd outside of either the hate group or the ignorant group.
    Maybe there is one...I just haven't heard it.
    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Religious groups. Many libertarians. Just old folks who can't wrap their mind around the concept. People like my own grandparents on one side of the family.
    Who are these many libertarians and what is their good argument to oppose gay marriage?

    As has been established, the official libertarian platform condemns opposition to gay marriage.

    Platform - Libertarian Party
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    Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.

    And even further...

    3.5 Rights and Discrimination

    We condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant. Government should not deny or abridge any individual's rights based on sex, wealth, race, color, creed, age, national origin, personal habits, political preference or sexual orientation. Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs.

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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Since gays are people, too, I would surmise that gay rights fall under the umbrella of human rights and the civil rights everyone else enjoys.

    There, mystery solved.

    oh like heterosexual rights...not real.

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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    The entire idea of beauty pageants is misogynistic anyway. It has young girls and women chasing after looks and thinking that beauty is going to solve the problems of anyone's life. Here we have this bigot shooting off her mouth and getting slapped down for it. Vanessa Williams was hammered for being in Lesbian pictures. Then we have beauty pageant entrant Palin and we can see her leaning.

    I think it is nice they took her title. Maybe they can Prop 9 it back to her. They did that to the Gays and Lesbians they prop 8ed away the right to same sex marriage.
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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Inferno View Post
    The entire idea of beauty pageants is misogynistic anyway. It has young girls and women chasing after looks and thinking that beauty is going to solve the problems of anyone's life. Here we have this bigot shooting off her mouth and getting slapped down for it. Vanessa Williams was hammered for being in Lesbian pictures. Then we have beauty pageant entrant Palin and we can see her leaning.

    I think it is nice they took her title. Maybe they can Prop 9 it back to her. They did that to the Gays and Lesbians they prop 8ed away the right to same sex marriage.
    Uuuuuuuuuuuuh Hello? They also get to demonstrate their backwards beliefs by talking about political subjects like P8.
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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    Quote Originally Posted by xvz View Post
    While you are waiting for the evidence you have asked for, you can answer to your own unsupported claim.



    Who are these many libertarians and what is their good argument to oppose gay marriage?

    As has been established, the official libertarian platform condemns opposition to gay marriage.

    Platform - Libertarian Party
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    Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the rights of individuals by government, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Government does not have the authority to define, license or restrict personal relationships.

    And even further...

    3.5 Rights and Discrimination

    We condemn bigotry as irrational and repugnant. Government should not deny or abridge any individual's rights based on sex, wealth, race, color, creed, age, national origin, personal habits, political preference or sexual orientation. Parents, or other guardians, have the right to raise their children according to their own standards and beliefs.
    This has already been answered.

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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Uuuuuuuuuuuuh Hello? They also get to demonstrate their backwards beliefs by talking about political subjects like P8.
    That is the only entertaining portion of beauty pageants, watching the contestants struggle to form coherent thoughts. The type of women drawn to be a contestant in one of these is not generally one who does a lot of thinking, at least not past how they are going to pay the loan they took out to get implants.

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    Re: Carrie Prejean Stripped Of Miss California Title

    If Parez Hilton would have just gone home after the pageant and gone to bed instead of making a drunken rant on his popular web site nobody would have any idea who Carrie Prejean is or her feelings about gay marriage. She would never have become the martyr of any anti gay marriage group.

    It is all his fault. He did his cause no favors.

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