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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Pure communism, as a societal practice, cannot exist because of human psychology. Any collectivist philosophy that is attempted to be put into practice on a wide scale will devolve into extreme right wing authoritarianism.
    I think I've already said that hence "cult of personality", but it is not just the end result which is the question, so too, is the collectivist revolution and the violence and suffering which it brings. It's been happening since Robespierre. Lenin was an avid admirer of Robespierre.

    Nope. Not at all.
    No, exactly.
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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Pure communism, as a societal practice, cannot exist because of human psychology. Any collectivist philosophy that is attempted to be put into practice on a wide scale will devolve into extreme right wing authoritarianism.
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    OK, if this is your position, please show how.
    Not to quibble too much, Cap'n, but haven't you already made the demonstration?

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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Instead of talking about the buses you fix for a living why don't you look up which side of the ideological scale Nazism was on. We've already had this debate with Aquapub. And the outcome? Nazism is squarely on the right wing.



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    It was a dictatorship that reigned in both sides. I'd hate for you not to qualify for a bus driver position because your mouth betrays your intellect.
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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I remember that debate. Aqua claimed that fascism was left wing extremism. I quoted the father of fascism, Mussolini (who aqua had quoted, also), making it clear that fascism was right wing extremism. After his usual insulting, aqua vacated the thread.



    See, I think that is a misnomer as well. It is a hybrid of left and right, it was, a dictatorship. It did not fill either mold.


    That said, it started as a left wing movement, to unite the workers under socialism. They used big government programs to propell Germany out of thier depression. It was anti-capitalist, central controlling.


    To me these are left wing Ideals. SOcially, they were right wing, but far more left wing, and statist, economically.



    That said. I see you had no problem with Hautey's insulting ways, so I responded in kind. Thank you for your understanding. *






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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    It is a mistake to attempt to label all political views on a scale that only ranges from left to right on American terms. There are plenty of extremist views that are off the charts compared to American politics and totally unrelated to domestic ideology.

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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Not to quibble too much, Cap'n, but haven't you already made the demonstration?
    I presented my position on this. Just asked him to clarify his.
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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Instead of talking about the buses you fix for a living why don't you look up which side of the ideological scale Nazism was on. We've already had this debate with Aquapub. And the outcome? Nazism is squarely on the right wing.
    One one side of the ideological scale is libertarianism. On the other side are all the collectivist notions, such as socialism, communism, thisism and thatism and theotherisms.

    Does it matter if the boot crushing your neck is stepping on you because the wearer is hired by the Dictator for Life enjoying his new palace or by the Dictator for Life by Blessed Virtue of the Proletariat enjoying his new palace?

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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    One one side of the ideological scale is libertarianism. On the other side are all the collectivist notions, such as socialism, communism, thisism and thatism and theotherisms.
    Not exactly.

    The spectrum has an x and y axis.


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    Re: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Not exactly.
    Actually, yes, exactly.

    Amber is the only real city, which casts infinite shadows of itself until all shadows merge into unrelenting Chaos.

    Libertarianism is the only real philosophy of freedom, all other philosophies reflect a shadow of that ideal and incorporate some inherent element of the chaos of man's bestial nature.

    Heck, rotate your little picture by ninety degress (in the plane of the image) and what do you have?

    You have the word "libertarian" on one side, and everything else is arrayed on the other side. Just what I said. (PS, the better charts are shown as a "diamond", with libertarianism at the top, not that it invalidates what I said or the imagery I employed.)
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    UPDATE: Shooting reported at or near U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington.

    Child porn found on von Brunn's PC

    Child pornography was found on a computer belonging to the white supremacist charged with shooting and killing a security guard at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum, the FBI said in court documents.

    Agents found the material on a desktop computer seized from the Annapolis apartment, where 88-year-old James W. von Brunn lived with his son and his son's fiancee, FBI Special Agent Ronald Farnsworth said in an affidavit filed Wednesday in support of a search warrant.

    Investigators searched the home June 11, taking more than 30 items, including ammunition, computers, thumb drives, CDs, memory cards, cell phones and videos.
    Anybody surprised by this?

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