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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    Don't you think that by being silent you are legitimizing the radicals ??!!!
    Not true.

    You are forgetting the second half of the principle.

    Qui tacet consentire videtur, ubi loqui debuit ac potuit
    Silence presumes consent, but only when one ought to have spoken.

    There is no duty to speak, particularly when, as regards the law of the matter, Roeder is still but an accused murderer.

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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The part of this that pisses me off is that it will inspire others, I suspect, to claim similar victories elsewhere.

    And, while I'm not a big fan of abortion, I don't like seeing violence used as a means of social control. I find that dangerous to a free and democratic society.
    I am not a big fan of abortion when used as a birth control device but to be honest I do not believe that abortion is being used as birth control.

    When the right wing whacks on radio and TV run their mouths called abortion muder and doctors murderers what can you expect when an unstable whackjob does what this freak did.
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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Agreed. Regrettably, the wackos who get most of the publicity can give a black eye to the more reasoned folks who share a certain POV. That is true whether it's pro-life, anti-war, or any other political interest.

    I believe Roeder is a classic sociopath.
    Indeed, I must wish some of my former allies on the "anti-Islamophobic"(for want of a better term.) had longer memories.
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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    The Associated Press: Slain Kansas abortion provider's clinic to close

    The family of slain abortion provider George Tiller said Tuesday that his Wichita clinic will be "permanently closed," effective immediately.

    It's not surprising he feels victorious.

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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I would like to make a point. Suppose that those in favor of abortion decided to get militant over this, and someone shoots and kills a couple of the more vocal preachers while they are preaching an anti-abortion stance from the pulpit in their church. Who do you think would be the first to call the police and demand action from the government to put a stop to it?

    Just something to think about. It's called contemplating hypocrisy.
    So you think it's a fair comparison? Killing someone who says stuff you don't like vs killing someone who kills for a living?

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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    So you think it's a fair comparison? Killing someone who says stuff you don't like vs killing someone who kills for a living?
    Actually a better example would be if PETA members killed those that worked in Slaughter houses.

    Would that be ok for them to do then? Afterall, the people in the slaughter house are killing animals.

    It is LEGAL to kill animals as long as you are called a Slaughter House.

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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Actually a better example would be if PETA members killed those that worked in Slaughter houses.

    Would that be ok for them to do then? Afterall, the people in the slaughter house are killing animals.

    It is LEGAL to kill animals as long as you are called a Slaughter House.
    Nah, a better example would be slave owners killing slaves while slavery was legal.

    Humans killing humans is more of a moral outrage then humans killing meat for food.

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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Nah, a better example would be slave owners killing slaves while slavery was legal.

    Humans killing humans is more of a moral outrage then humans killing meat for food.
    Not really. You have yet to prove that killing animals is morally right.

    You say that just because something is LEGAL, doesn't make it moral or right.

    So what makes killing animals moral or right?

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    Re: Murderer claims 'victory' in closing of clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not really. You have yet to prove that killing animals is morally right.

    You say that just because something is LEGAL, doesn't make it moral or right.

    So what makes killing animals moral or right?
    No I don't have to prove anything about animals; especially considering humans are animals.

    I have asserted there is a moral outrage to one human killing another without just cause that killing other animals for meat generally doesn't equal. However, and this is off topic, you do find an even greater portion of the populace that gets pissed about killing animals solely for sport. But anywho outside of abortion there is a fairly decent consensus that one human shouldn't just kill another human without justification.

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