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    Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com


    PASADENA, Calif. The most massive black hole yet weighed lurks at the heart of the relatively nearby giant galaxy M87.

    The super massive black hole is two to three times heftier than previously thought, a new model showed, weighing in at a whopping 6.4 billion times the mass of the sun.



    For those who share a similar passion and astonishment as I do when discussing astronomy, the dimensions of this black hole are truly awe inspiring.

    I read an article recently that discussed the possible theories concerning the activity of matter at a quantum physics level as it enters an event horizon of a black hole. Also mentioned was varying theories discussing the validity of the proposed theories of what occurs at the singularity of a black hole where matter is crushed to an infinite density and the disappearance of space time as we know. I think I have a decent grasp on the very basics of the material and terminology, but I get my mind blown every time.

    An exciting frontier in my opinion, new theories are being introduced quite frequently. This theories each present unique perspectives and put a spin on new theories and make improvement upon old theories and subsequently shine light on areas that weren't thought of prevviously.

    I would be interested in what Stephen Hawking has to say concerning the recent discovery of the new super massive black hole. Although the black hole in itself does not present any new fields to be studied in itself, the sheer magnitude of it is certain to raise a number of questions and hypotheses.
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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    I always wondered if there is an exit from a black hole and where does that exit lead to if here is one and what form does the matter and/or energy exit in if it does exit. One also must wonder if consciousness an make a trip in and out of a black hole !/?/!!! Is consciousness a form of energy ? Or is consciousness another form of something that we have not defined yet?
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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I always wondered if there is an exit from a black hole and where does that exit lad to if here is one and what form does the matter and/or energy exit in if it does exit. One also must wonder if consciousness an make a trip in and out of a black hole !/?/!!! Is consciousness a form of energy ? Or is consciousness another form of something that we have not defined yet?
    Some have considered it and from a show I saw they say that could be a "white hole" which is something that hasn't been seen or proven yet, but it would make sense.

    If a black hole prevents light from escaping then that energy has to be transferred to something else. But it hasn't been proven and some think it doesn't exist.

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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr View Post
    I always wondered if there is an exit from a black hole and where does that exit lad to if here is one and what form does the matter and/or energy exit in if it does exit. One also must wonder if consciousness an make a trip in and out of a black hole !/?/!!! Is consciousness a form of energy ? Or is consciousness another form of something that we have not defined yet?
    If you perceive space and time in the manner Einstein did, then and picture it like a piece of paper with a marble with the density of our sun in the middle, in which gravity and light are curved around. Then picture a marble with the density described at the singularity of a black hole, 6.4 billion times that of the sun. Some theories suggest that this singularity may be able to 'punch through' the fabric of space time.. Where this exits or if even does and whether it possible for matter to be ejected out of this exit is unknown.

    You would be strung like spaghetti and torn apart at a molecular level if you entered a black hole. Therefore you would die. There is no need to travel to a black hole to find out if your consciousness exists or takes a new form after your life is extinguished, nature will take of this question for you someday...perhaps.

    Concerning the metaphysics behind the nature of consciousness, you would be better off asking Burning Giraffe or another philosophical guru.
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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    If you perceive space and time in the manner Einstein did, then and picture it like a piece of paper with a marble with the density of our sun in the middle, in which gravity and light are curved around. Then picture a marble with the density described at the singularity of a black hole, 6.4 billion times that of the sun. Some theories suggest that this singularity may be able to 'punch through' the fabric of space time.. Where this exits or if even does and whether it possible for matter to be ejected out of this exit is unknown.

    You would be strung like spaghetti and torn apart at a molecular level if you entered a black hole. Therefore you would die. There is no need to travel to a black hole to find out if your consciousness exists or takes a new form after your life is extinguished, nature will take of this question for you someday...perhaps.

    Concerning the metaphysics behind the nature of consciousness, you would be better off asking Burning Giraffe or another philosophical guru.
    As for the "question" of "nature of consciousness" that was not a question directed at anyone in particular but at everyone in particular, and I just offered it up for "thinkers" to thunk on it. I see that you are also a thunker !!!!!!!
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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Some say that Black Holes are the remnants of burnt out stars.
    If they are burnt out stars then how can they say that there is light inside there but we cannot see it?
    I mean if its burnt out there wouldn't be any light?
    But it all boils down to: No one knows they are just guessing.
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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Polynikes View Post
    Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com


    PASADENA, Calif. The most massive black hole yet weighed lurks at the heart of the relatively nearby giant galaxy M87.

    The super massive black hole is two to three times heftier than previously thought, a new model showed, weighing in at a whopping 6.4 billion times the mass of the sun.



    For those who share a similar passion and astonishment as I do when discussing astronomy, the dimensions of this black hole are truly awe inspiring.

    I read an article recently that discussed the possible theories concerning the activity of matter at a quantum physics level as it enters an event horizon of a black hole. Also mentioned was varying theories discussing the validity of the proposed theories of what occurs at the singularity of a black hole where matter is crushed to an infinite density and the disappearance of space time as we know. I think I have a decent grasp on the very basics of the material and terminology, but I get my mind blown every time.

    An exciting frontier in my opinion, new theories are being introduced quite frequently. This theories each present unique perspectives and put a spin on new theories and make improvement upon old theories and subsequently shine light on areas that weren't thought of prevviously.

    I would be interested in what Stephen Hawking has to say concerning the recent discovery of the new super massive black hole. Although the black hole in itself does not present any new fields to be studied in itself, the sheer magnitude of it is certain to raise a number of questions and hypotheses.

    How long until it gets here? What I mean is, will I be able to see the last season of Lost before being crushed into infinite density?

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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Some have considered it and from a show I saw they say that could be a "white hole" which is something that hasn't been seen or proven yet, but it would make sense.

    If a black hole prevents light from escaping then that energy has to be transferred to something else. But it hasn't been proven and some think it doesn't exist.
    Isn't it just kept, ie that is how a black hole gains mass?

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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    How long until it gets here? What I mean is, will I be able to see the last season of Lost before being crushed into infinite density?
    Yes, I would imagine your great great great great grandchildren can enjoy Rocky 1,054 before such a thing happens

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    Re: Biggest Black Hole Ever Found in Nearby Galaxy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Stinger1 View Post
    Some say that Black Holes are the remnants of burnt out stars.
    If they are burnt out stars then how can they say that there is light inside there but we cannot see it?
    I mean if its burnt out there wouldn't be any light?
    But it all boils down to: No one knows they are just guessing.
    Well we are still "just guessing" as to what gravity is. We think that we know what all of the effect of gravity are but do we really know exactly how gravity works !!! Is gravity only a "force" ? Is it a form of matter that we do no yet understand ? Is gravity a combination of matter and energy and are the effects of gravity caused by a force of energy and is the matter only a vehicle for gravitational energy to "ride" on ???

    The answer my friend is blowing in the cosmic wind !!
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