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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Problem is, he's merely posturing just before he asks for another trillion for nationalized healthcare. That is what is truly getting old.
    You have some proof he is going to do this, or is it another wild claim?

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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The spending Obama has done he felt was needed to get the economy fixed(note: I am not saying it was, only that he believed it). Now that that is done, spending does have to be controlled, and reduced soon. If it turns out that the spending Obama has done helps the economy, and he does control and reduce spending, then all this could be a positive. At this point in time, no one knows for sure, and it's all guesswork.

    If President Obama had done nothing for the economy when he came into office, most of the same people bitching about what he did would be bitching he had not spent a trillion dollars fixing the economy. Twenty threads a day bitching about the same trivial crap gets old.
    Let me fix your first sentence for you.

    The spending Bush has done he felt was needed to get the economy fixed(note: I am not saying it was, only that he believed it).

    It was still spending like a drunken sailor. I was all over the Bush supporters for making excuses. Now I am all over you.
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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You have got to be kidding. The man spends a trillion dollars, then he has the outright nerve to warn Congress to watch its spending?
    It's another attempt of Obama trying to have it both ways.

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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The spending Obama has done he felt was needed to get the economy fixed(note: I am not saying it was, only that he believed it). Now that that is done, spending does have to be controlled, and reduced soon. If it turns out that the spending Obama has done helps the economy, and he does control and reduce spending, then all this could be a positive. At this point in time, no one knows for sure, and it's all guesswork.
    Can you name a politician who didn't consider his spending plans "needed"?

    Dear Leader telling Congress to watch its spending makes about as much sense as the town drunk giving a temperance lecture at Sunday meeting.

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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Can you name a politician who didn't consider his spending plans "needed"?

    Dear Leader telling Congress to watch its spending makes about as much sense as the town drunk giving a temperance lecture at Sunday meeting.
    The difference would be the level of need. There is a strong belief among some that if Obama had not acted, the economy would have gotten much, much worse, and any recovery would have been much further off. That is something more than Joe Senator wanting a bridge or museum.

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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The difference would be the level of need. There is a strong belief among some that if Obama had not acted, the economy would have gotten much, much worse, and any recovery would have been much further off. That is something more than Joe Senator wanting a bridge or museum.
    Oh, I'm sure Joe Senator could tell you at length about the jobs that bridge will bring, or the educational benefits to the children in his state from that museum. Hell, give Joe Senator a warm-up lap and he'll be arguing that the bridge is what will save his state from economic ruin. Depending on whether or not he's had his morning coffee, he might even believe that himself.

    You're rationalizing, and not very well. My girlfriend's daughter has better excuses.

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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Oh, I'm sure Joe Senator could tell you at length about the jobs that bridge will bring, or the educational benefits to the children in his state from that museum. Hell, give Joe Senator a warm-up lap and he'll be arguing that the bridge is what will save his state from economic ruin. Depending on whether or not he's had his morning coffee, he might even believe that himself.

    You're rationalizing, and not very well. My girlfriend's daughter has better excuses.
    You are biased. I could offer proof that Obama did the perfect job, and you would call me wrong.

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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The difference would be the level of need. There is a strong belief among some that if Obama had not acted, the economy would have gotten much, much worse, and any recovery would have been much further off. That is something more than Joe Senator wanting a bridge or museum.
    So what did the spending actually do aside from paying off campaign supporters like the leaders of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, and the UAW? Keep in mind, he still has much of that money in the kitty, waiting for more pet projects like healthcare, green projects, and future campaign supporters.

    He hasn't created job 1 yet. He hasn't helped a single person facing foreclosure. He gave a ton of money to GM, then watched it fold anyway (who got that money?) Chrysler's about to become Fiat. Hummer's now a Chinese automobile. Unemployment is rising faster than a Katrina flood. Lendors aren't lending.

    Obama has made a bad problem much, much worse, and he ain't done making it worse yet. I think he actually wants it that way because he sees the U.S. as too powerful.

    He loves to say "We're 5 percent of the planet, and we use 25 percent of the world's resources." So what exactly does he have in mind for us? What lifestyle has he decided we should be allowed to live?

    Meanwhile, he and Missy are dancing around the Middle East and Europe apologizing for everything the United States has done for 200+ years.
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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You are biased. I could offer proof that Obama did the perfect job, and you would call me wrong.
    Of course, and I would naturally be correct when I did.

    However, at least then you would not be rationalizing, but debating.

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    Re: Obama tells Congress to watch its spending?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Of course, and I would naturally be correct when I did.

    However, at least then you would not be rationalizing, but debating.
    I did debate. I explained his rationale. I explained the difference. It's not my fault you cannot see past your biases. If you seriously cannot see the difference in the level of need between a bridge, and an economic meltdown, you are blinding yourself.

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