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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    antifa are just as bad as their opposition, worse probably because they only give them legitimacy. "Black blocs" and all the rest of that street squaddism crap is completely counter-productive.
    We should just ignore them.

    I see why it is bad but lets be logically.
    They only got in because of low turnout not because people actually agreed with them. [I'm sure some of them do]
    We all should just calm down and stop acting like it's the end of the world


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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    "Arrested for some of their views" ?? Are you for real?

    Arrested??

    For thinking and daring to speak ideas out loud?


    oooo boy...
    No, for what they do not say but what is well documented.

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Amazing how if you want to ban flag burning , take down some anti-American trash propped up as art on tax payer funded property or jail journalist who knowingly air classified information the leftist are ready to scream we have a right to free speech. But someone with opposing views wants to speak then their attitude is shout him down or drive him out.Kids wants to bring a bible to school or pray is screw him. Cross on war memorial screw them. Its seems the only free speech that matters to leftist is their own. Just look at the stories involving Army recruiters,marine recruiters, conservative politicians,conservative speakers, anti-illegal immigration groups. They called everything from hate monger,war monger to racist and none of those words are true.

    I actually had to look up wikipedia to see if the BNP are racist,nazis or fascist that the leftist are trying to portray them as because usually leftist like to lie about their opponents. And for ounce they were correct about a group they oppose, I guess a broken clock can be right once or twice a day. Regardless of their views if you actually believe in free speech not just the free speech of those who agree with you agree with then you will let these people talk.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    We should just ignore them.

    I see why it is bad but lets be logically.
    They only got in because of low turnout not because people actually agreed with them. [I'm sure some of them do]
    We all should just calm down and stop acting like it's the end of the world
    It's so much worse in the US because here it's even more of a stupid game (although in Europe it's pretty much a stupid game too) because we don't have any serious fascist movements here (other then the Republicans ).

    So American SHARP Skins and Black Blocs in Seattle to go "bash the fash" (i.e. overturn trash cans and irritate police) are acting so unbelievably self indulgent.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    It's so much worse in the US because here it's even more of a stupid game (although in Europe it's pretty much a stupid game too) because we don't have any serious fascist movements here (other then the Republicans ).

    So American SHARP Skins and Black Blocs in Seattle to go "bash the fash" (i.e. overturn trash cans and irritate police) are acting so unbelievably self indulgent.
    US has it better.
    You have a two horse race which stops such idiots getting into power.

    Over here because PR is used in EU elections it enables such groups to enter. Never thought i'd miss majority systems.


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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    No, for what they do not say but what is well documented.
    You wan to arrest them for non-speech?


    Come ON!!! You're having a laugh now.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    US has it better.
    You have a two horse race which stops such idiots getting into power.

    Over here because PR is used in EU elections it enables such groups to enter. Never thought i'd miss majority systems.
    no, our far-right actually wins elections.

    the US doesn't have "street fascism", our psychotic hypernationalists operate out of the pulpit, which is a lot more dangerous.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    You wan to arrest them for non-speech?


    Come ON!!! You're having a laugh now.

    They would be arrested for their views and their actions. However they have been very clever in being deceptive.

    I've been trying to find some information from their website through 'back in time' which I found before which would illustrate this very well but there is a lot to look through and it is not impossible they have removed it.

    It would give you some idea of what I am talking about.

    If a pedophile wanted to work with children and said they loved them and you knew what they meant by them saying that, you could say they would be arrested if the truth were known.

    It is similar to that. We do know the truth. The media knows the truth but the BNP are very clever at the moment in their presentation. When as does happen a Member is caught in action they will describe that person as a 'bad apple'. They have a heck of a lot of bad apples.

    If you want to find out more about them you can find it here

    The real BNP: Scratch the surface and you find the same old racist organisation
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    It does though I think beg a question about them being able to stand. That is underneath the propaganda most of us are aware of who they are and if they were honest they would be arrested for some of their views.
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    I find this far more disturbing than his views. This is one way in which America is still preferable to the UK. We allow our racists to make themselves publicly ridiculous, without arresting them. And, personally, I have fewer problems with a loud racist than I do with a government deciding what speech is acceptable, and what isn't.

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by alexa View Post
    If a pedophile wanted to work with children and said they loved them and you knew what they meant by them saying that, you could say they would be arrested if the truth were known.
    Actually, you are mistaken here. Unless they had actually committed a crime, simply BEING a pedophile (someone who is sexually attracted to children) is NOT a crime. It's a mental disorder.

    This idea that people should be ARRESTED for having unpopular or even ugly opinions is simply frightening and absurd, to this American, at least.

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