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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    By the way, lest someone be tempted to dismiss me as just a white woman with a white agenda, my kids are multiracial. I have dealt with racism at close range for the past almost 20 years.

    And I still say, let them speak. I live in the Southern U.S. where we know, openly, who the racists are. I much prefer it to people who say one thing, and then vote another way.

    Clearly, there are plenty of people in the UK who buy into the agenda of the BNP. By trying to silence the BNP, you only give their views more validity. Exposing them to the light of day only allows people to see how truly ridiculous they are.

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Thatcher tried to deny the IRA the Oxygen of Publicity, the idiot thought because it worked on her cabinet it would work on the IRA

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    Thatcher tried to deny the IRA the Oxygen of Publicity, the idiot thought because it worked on her cabinet it would work on the IRA
    I wonder how long her tactics extended that particular conflict, building extreme feelings on both sides?

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I wonder how long her tactics extended that particular conflict, building extreme feelings on both sides?
    That was taken care of by Sunday Bloody Sunday, that atrocity is worth researching

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Clearly, there are plenty of people in the UK who buy into the agenda of the BNP. By trying to silence the BNP, you only give their views more validity. Exposing them to the light of day only allows people to see how truly ridiculous they are.
    This is an assumption.

    The BNP gained ground because the economic crisis has exposed the wood lice immigration has been to our economy, and because we are sick of the Labour party and everything they stand for, the corruption (not that the BNP are likely to be any less corrupt, but we have very little evidence to suggest they are, of both the conservatives and labour party), the realization of the detrimental effects of the EU to our treasured independance...the reason they have gained ground is because they have more voice then they ever did in light of recent events, racism policies have only helped bring there offence views down a tone. Anyway, with some of the things those Nazi's say, they would get thrown straight out of parliament by the speaker as it is. Example, John Tyndall's anti-semetic views and claiming his bible was Mein Kampf (the latter wouldnt get him chucked out but just get a view of how ignorant these people are).

    EDIT: Isnt Anti-semetism illegal in America? Just a thought.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    This is an assumption.

    The BNP gained ground because the economic crisis has exposed the wood lice immigration has been to our economy, and because we are sick of the Labour party and everything they stand for, the corruption (not that the BNP are likely to be any less corrupt, but we have very little evidence to suggest they are, of both the conservatives and labour party), the realization of the detrimental effects of the EU to our treasured independance...the reason they have gained ground is because they have more voice then they ever did in light of recent events, racism policies have only helped bring there offence views down a tone. .
    My assumption is an accurate one. Some whites in GB clearly feel that they have been harmed, economically and otherwise, by the presence of so many non-white immigrants in the country. Instead of encouraging open debate about this subject, British policy has stifled dissent and driven the conflict underground. You can put any spin on it that you wish, the fact remains that enough people voted for BNP to put them in office. I don't think they've ever been particularly secretive about who/what they are, even as an American I've heard about them for years and know who they are...white nationalists. So, presuming that your countrymen are too ignorant to realize that they're voting for racists is simply absurd.

    Thus, there must be plenty of white Britons who share their racist views, and hence have no problems voting for them.

    And, that makes it clear that Britain's race laws haven't actually changed public opinion as much as you'd like to think. Hence, they aren't working.

    I'm telling you that real, open discussion on race, even if it offended some of you, would probably take this issue farther than laws that stifle dissent.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    EDIT: Isnt Anti-semetism illegal in America? Just a thought.
    No, it's not. You can find plenty of anti-semites in the far left AND the far right here, though they usually cloak themselves in the guise of being anti-"zionists" these days.

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    No, it's not. You can find plenty of anti-semites in the far left AND the far right here, though they usually cloak themselves in the guise of being anti-"zionists" these days.
    How about the use of the N word? Hmm, i need to brush up on my American politics.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    How about the use of the N word? Hmm, i need to brush up on my American politics.
    Also not illegal. Listen to some gangster rap and get back to me. Racism and racist expressions are not illegal here. Racist actions, such as work or housing discrimination, however, are illegal, but are generally litigated civilly.

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    My assumption is an accurate one. Some whites in GB clearly feel that they have been harmed, economically and otherwise, by the presence of so many non-white immigrants in the country. Instead of encouraging open debate about this subject, British policy has stifled dissent and driven the conflict underground. You can put any spin on it that you wish, the fact remains that enough people voted for BNP to put them in office. I don't think they've ever been particularly secretive about who/what they are, even as an American I've heard about them for years and know who they are...white nationalists. So, presuming that your countrymen are too ignorant to realize that they're voting for racists is simply absurd.
    Actually, we have been harmed economically in general by immigrants and this isnt subject to just non-whites, because to be quiet frank with you catz, most of our immigrants are white from Poland, Bulgaria etc.
    People voted for BNP for reasons stated that you cannot possibly conclude was a result of such laws, which where introduced long before the european elections. Anyway, it was a low turnout.

    And they are not white nationalists so its evident there is a huge misunderstanding on them in America. Not once have they stated, under the rule of John Tyndall or Nick Griffin, that the white race is superior, and you can even visit there site or wiki them. To call them British nationalists would be correct, racist ones at that. White nationalists believe in white superiorty, in this case there just racist, they even have members in the BNP who are of openly Jewish decent, and have even tried to garner Jewish support for the party.
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