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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    There is a reason why name-calling, racism and incitement to vilolence is not allowed or appreciated on a respectful discussion forum, so I don't see why it should be allowed in a respectful nation.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    There is a reason why name-calling, racism and incitement to vilolence is not allowed or appreciated on a respectful discussion forum, so I don't see why it should be allowed in a respectful nation.
    Mira, you just summed up my entire point in a few sentences, i thank you! Though id rather reserve this logic for racism. Its not acceptable under any measure of free speech.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    There is a reason why name-calling, racism and incitement to vilolence is not allowed or appreciated on a respectful discussion forum, so I don't see why it should be allowed in a respectful nation.
    They are 2 different things.Its called freedom of speech you have to protect freedom of speech for bigots too.

    Otherwise you start going down a road where decent in general from popular opinion is banned.Incitement to violence is completly different to name calling or racism.Also to put this in practise it would require a benevolent group of people to judge what is right or wrong to say.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    There is a reason why name-calling, racism and incitement to vilolence is not allowed or appreciated on a respectful discussion forum, so I don't see why it should be allowed in a respectful nation.
    Yet people continually justify terrorism aimed against a specific group and indulge in all manner of hateful invective against them.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcana XV View Post
    Well, I'm not American and I think some of our laws here in Europe that limit our freedom of speech are very counterproductive. ?
    Not just counterproductive, but in application and through the attitudes of so many dogmatic people, are often racist in and of themself.

    Just try criticizing an Imam who is preaching hatred, and the very people who indulge in so much faux grandstanding about racism will shout you down with accusations of "Islamophobia". They are not judging whether or not something is racist by what is being said, but by who is saying it.
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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Triad View Post
    Seems clear by the victory they achieved that those who don't like them failed in their message.
    Now instead of dealing with that those who oppose them instead wish to what?

    Criminalize the speech that got them the support.

    Whose the Fascists again?
    I actually find it startling that people don't "get" this.

    Beyond that all it does is empower them. They can now say "See people of the UK our opponents are so afraid they will not even allows us to speak to you freely. Do you want to be led by people who will not even speak the truth to you for fear of a law? Do you want to be led by the same old politicians who have brought your country to this point?"
    Exactly. It FEEDS their racism and xenophobia, and shows their supporters that yes, there IS an agenda against whites in the UK. It's crazy. Let them run. Let them serve. The cause of equality is served far more by exposing, openly, the absurdity and stupidity of racism.

    The extreme right has made significant gains throughout europe...its likely to continue to make gains likely up to an including people as head of states as well as instituting polices ejecting non-indigenous folks. Atm there is no Hitler figure of note in any nation..but that likely to change as well especially if the economy continues as is.
    Silencing these people only gives them strength, turns them into martyrs, and shows that their agenda of intolerance is correct.

    Absurd.

    Why are people so afraid of just letting idiots speak and out themselves? Why is free speech (even ugly speech), so frightening?

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Just try criticizing an Imam who is preaching hatred, and the very people who indulge in so much faux grandstanding about racism will shout you down with accusations of "Islamophobia". They are not judging whether or not something is racist by what is being said, but by who is saying it.
    Hear, hear. I so agree. I've seen it happen time and again on these forums. These laws AGAINST intolerance are used to protect the intolerant.

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Yet people continually justify terrorism aimed against a specific group and indulge in all manner of hateful invective against them.
    You mean like calling them racist assholes and throwing eggs at them?

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I think the best way to deal with bad ideas is to expose them to the harsh light of public discussion, not force them under the rug to fester.
    There are other reasons darling

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    Re: BNP leader pelted in egg protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    You mean like calling them racist assholes and throwing eggs at them?
    For certain people the mere wish to live without people hassling them is called "racist" by those truly indulging in the practice.
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