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    NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    NYC 7TH GRADERS RECEIVE CASH REWARDS FOR HIGH GRADES ON STANDARDIZED TESTS - New York Post

    Interesting. I think this is actually a good idea. Some kids just aren't motivated to learn by the idea that many years in the future, they'll have a chance at getting a better-paying job. I can't say I blame them...most adults aren't motivated by that logic either.

    By rewarding students for their hard work NOW, schools provide an incentive to learn.
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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    Parents often punish or reward their children based on their grades.

    Does that mean that the government is a parent now? I'm uneasy about this.

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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Parents often punish or reward their children based on their grades.
    And those that do tend to be better parents than those who don't (although there are exceptions). And their kids tend to do better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav
    Does that mean that the government is a parent now? I'm uneasy about this.
    I think it's hard to argue with the results. I think schools would be better off spending more money on things that have shown to be effective (e.g. cash rewards for students, better teacher pay, more school days) and less money on things that have not (e.g. smaller class size, state-of-the-art computers).
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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    Eh, if it works it works

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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    BS. move me to NYC. If i had this kind of reward, I'd be less bitter about my 35 on my ACT a few years back. Rewards? Psssh, after my parents found out, they signed me up to take ANOTHER test.

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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    I appreciate the results, but it still seems shallow to me. Although, I guess people will always respond to material reward much more readily than they would to a moral/value imperative.

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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I appreciate the results, but it still seems shallow to me. Although, I guess people will always respond to material reward much more readily than they would to a moral/value imperative.
    Most students aren't mature enough to appreciate that hard work will get them more money in the distant future (and neither are most adults). Whereas everyone can appreciate more money right now. And I agree that people are more motivated by money than by moral imperatives...that's partly why communism didn't work.

    From personal experience, I know I didn't care at all about my grades from K-4, but fortunately I had enough natural ability to do OK anyway. At that stage in my life, any reward from working hard was an unfathomably long time in the future. From 5-9 grade, my only motivation to succeed was for my parents not to get pissed off if I came home with bad grades. In 10-11 grade, I actually was motivated to do well because the possibility of getting into a good college was both perceivable and relatively short-term. And in 12th grade, once all my college applications were in, I stopped caring completely.
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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    I was never motivated by money to go to school, but by what I wanted to do in life. All the people I knew in high school who pursued their education based on future potential earnings alone are people who (as of my high school reunion [p.s. horrible, by the way]) are now terminally unhappy individuals that don't know how to change their circumstances because they only know how to pursue material award.

    If you hone in on the dreams of young people, that is a far better incentive to get them to do work than money. The material reward will come anyway with focused potential.

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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I was never motivated by money to go to school, but by what I wanted to do in life. All the people I knew in high school who pursued their education based on future potential earnings alone are people who (as of my high school reunion [p.s. horrible, by the way]) are now terminally unhappy individuals that don't know how to change their circumstances because they only know how to pursue material award.

    If you hone in on the dreams of young people, that is a far better incentive to get them to do work than money. The material reward will come anyway with focused potential.
    In some cases, yes. But in many other cases, the material reward will ASSIST them in realizing their potential. If you pay kids to study, they don't forget everything they've learned once the rewards stop. There are far too many kids who slip through the cracks because they don't see any benefit to going to school. This would provide them with an immediate benefit that they could understand.
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    Re: NYC 7th Graders Receive Cash for High Grades on Standardized Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    In some cases, yes. But in many other cases, the material reward will ASSIST them in realizing their potential. If you pay kids to study, they don't forget everything they've learned once the rewards stop. There are far too many kids who slip through the cracks because they don't see any benefit to going to school. This would provide them with an immediate benefit that they could understand.
    By developing critical thinking from a young age, you don't need to string them along so that they retain stuff for later. They'll understand why it is they're learning what they're learning, instead of learning for the material reward. Once the reward is gone, they'll simply look for an alternative for making the reward instead of doing something they are passionate about.

    It makes me think of all those people I met in college who had no idea why they were taking the degree they were taking, but they just wanted a degree because, in theory, having a degree would land them a "good job" and more money, even though they had no idea what career they wanted to be in. These people were doomed to failure.

    Paying kids to learn is giving up on teaching them real values.

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