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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's exactly like that. But he's only talking to the ones who don't pay attention.

    He's cornering himself. 2010 can't get here fast enough, and I hope Americans wake up like they did in 1994.
    Won't happen. The media are determined that 1984 will be the net result of the Obamanation, not 1994.

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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catman View Post
    I'd still like to know why the country had to have that 700 billion in such a hurry?
    That?

    Oh, that wasn't an economic stimulus package, that was a Democrat Payback Package.

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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The obvious problem here is that FAR too many people think the government needs to do anything to 'fix' the econony -- as the economy will, inevitably, will do that itself.
    Unfortunately I've learned some things in the past few weeks that prove that the government has to spend in order for the economy not to crash.

    That is because our money is debt based and of course government created this problem so they could solve it.

    Our current economy can't self correct.
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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    ^^You're libertarian?

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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Unfortunately I've learned some things in the past few weeks that prove that the government has to spend in order for the economy not to crash.

    That is because our money is debt based and of course government created this problem so they could solve it.

    Our current economy can't self correct.
    Sure it can. If the government stepped away right now and did nothing, it would self-correct. It would be messy and it woudl take a while, but it would correct. it might even mean the collapse of the US monetary system -- but, eventually, it would self-correct.

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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    ^^You're libertarian?
    Yep, that doesn't mean I don't want a self correcting economy.

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Sure it can. If the government stepped away right now and did nothing, it would self-correct. It would be messy and it woudl take a while, but it would correct. it might even mean the collapse of the US monetary system -- but, eventually, it would self-correct.

    When you put it that way sure.

    I was talking about if we wanted to preserve our current system, the government must do something as much as I hate, loathe, dislike it.

    Although I think we would of been better off if they had just cut everyone a check for $10,000.
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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Although I think we would of been better off if they had just cut everyone a check for $10,000.
    How do you figure?

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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    How do you figure?
    Well with the money disbursed now, it goes to special interests and others.

    Instead of doing that give it to people to spend as they see fit, it would go to where it was needed more reliably.
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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    ^^But not distributing money at all would have been even better.

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    Re: Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    ^^But not distributing money at all would have been even better.
    We wish, since our money is created on debt it can't all be repaid.

    During recessions people are more fervent in repaying debt, it starts to approach the point where their is still debt to repay but not enough money to pay it back with, then you have economic cluster ****.

    You know that more money is owed, than is in existence right?
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