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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Exactly. And if the government confiscates Person 3's wealth, nobody achieves anything and everybody gets nothing.

    Tolerating Person 3's success lets everyone else work, feed themselves, and a chance at prosperity.

    Demonizing Person 3's success lets everyone else go unemployed, hungry, with no chance for anything.

    Private enterprise and capitalistic endeavor employ more people, feed more people, and accomplish more social good than all government programs combine. Government little more than a parasite--a problem, not a solution.
    Trickle down economics are pretty much a joke, btw.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Nice math but you totally miss the point as a good right winger. You are so focused on the "rich" that you fail to see the huge majority of the people are in the first 2 categories. So you are basically saying, screw the less well off as long as the super rich get their tax breaks because then they can maybe invest the money somewhere. Like it or not person 1 and 2 are what drive any economy. Person 3 can invest all his wealth but without the spending of person 1 and 2, person 3 will never achieve or expand on his or her wealth.

    And I love your last comment.. may I ask where your compassion is for person 1 and 2 when they cant afford to buy food for their children or cloths for themselves? Person 3 can afford to pay that little extra in taxes, where as person 1 and 2 cant. Giving a tax break to the majority of people vs the very small minority is and always has been the best course, but listening to you only the rich matter. Great compassion there dude.
    No, you entirely miss the point altogether. (I suspect you understand this completely, but refuse to acknowledge it because it doesn't jive with your bitter political leanings).

    By screwing over Person 3, Persons 1 and 2 are now completely at the mercy of the government, which is exactly how you and Obama want it. Funny thing is, Hitler wanted the same thing.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    The entire state is affected by the situation, and to remove calWORKS completely would have a profound ripple effect throughout the state and the country.
    Really.
    Show that there are sufficient people on public assistance to plunge the entire state" into violent anarchy.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Trickle down economics are pretty much a joke, btw.
    That statement is a joke, btw.

    However, Hitler, Stalin, Castro, and Chavez would agree with you wholeheartedly, which judging by your moniker is exactly what you hope for.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Trickle down economics are pretty much a joke, btw.
    Its been tried three times on a national level, and its worked three times on a national level.
    The "joke" revolves around the people that deny this.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Trickle down economics are pretty much a joke, btw.
    And he comes back with a takedown! Brilliant maneuver! Wait what? This is your response? , great argument.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Trickle down economics are pretty much a joke, btw.
    Trickle down economics is what the statists offer.

    Capitalism builds from the ground up.

    Next guess?

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Really.
    Show that there are sufficient people on public assistance to plunge the entire state" into violent anarchy.
    A study by Beacon Economics - a California-based research firm - shows that the employment and economic activity generated by CalWORKs far exceeds the amount the state spends on it, Frank Mecca, executive director of the County Welfare Directors Association of California, said in letter to county social services directors.

    According to the study, every $1 million spent on CalWORKs generates $7.35 million in economic output and employment in the state, he said.

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    Because families enrolled in the program use a portion of their cash assistance on housing, it could result in more county residents losing their homes, Work said.

    Without job training, it also could mean fewer people finding work, which would stunt the county's economic growth, she added.

    Officials say cutting CalWORKs would hurt economy : News : Redding Record Searchlight

    And this is on top of the current unemployment/foreclosure crisis they are facing, as well.

    That statement is a joke, btw.

    However, Hitler, Stalin, Castro, and Chavez would agree with you wholeheartedly, which judging by your moniker is exactly what you hope for.
    And this is how we know that you will not contribute anything substantial or honest to this forum, ever.

    Its been tried three times on a national level, and its worked three times on a national level.
    The "joke" revolves around the people that deny this.
    If by "worked" you mean failed then yes. But I have no desire to get into an economic argument with you; you obviously have other goals in mind than me when it comes to gauging "workability".

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    A study by Beacon Economics - a California-based research firm - shows that the employment and economic activity generated by CalWORKs far exceeds the amount the state spends on it, Frank Mecca, executive director of the County Welfare Directors Association of California, said in letter to county social services directors.

    According to the study, every $1 million spent on CalWORKs generates $7.35 million in economic output and employment in the state, he said.

    Because families enrolled in the program use a portion of their cash assistance on housing, it could result in more county residents losing their homes, Work said.

    Without job training, it also could mean fewer people finding work, which would stunt the county's economic growth, she added.

    And this is on top of the current unemployment/foreclosure crisis they are facing, as well.
    Whoop-whoop.
    This doesnt show what I asked you to show.

    If by "worked" you mean failed then yes.
    Show this to be true.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Whoop-whoop.
    This doesnt show what I asked you to show.
    Actually that article does show that; I just didn't quote it because the amount of people on it at any one time is irrelevant, as it reaches many more people than the amount simply on it in one instance.

    Show this to be true.
    Just like how you wanted me to show that there was no Iraq-US cease-fire agreement? I'm not interested in wasting my time writing a book on something that you would just troll in response.

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