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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Yeah. I read that.

    Since we donate more money, what ****ing difference does it make?

    We're under no contract to submit x% of our GDP to parasites around the globe. Donate more if you care about them, or donate nothing, if you don't care about them, like me.

    The Left is always complaining:

    There's too many people in the world.
    The United States is evil because it doesn't help all those people.

    Well, there's too many people in the world and hence logically the thing to do is to minimize actions that increase the number of people who can't wipe their own asses.

    I'm not a Lefty, I use logic.



    I don't care. It's not the job of the American taxpayer to feed international charities with his tax dollars, and it's not a requirement upon any citizen to donate money to any charity he doesn't want to.

    What part of "free country" did you fail to understand when going to school?
    Sometimes cold logic leads to bad conclusions. This is one of them. It is the moral obligation of the strong to help the weak as best they can. This is not social Darwinism, I don't have a problem with some of my tax dollars helping other countries as long as Americans in trouble recieve help first, which, truthfully, is not happening.
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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by wbreese91 View Post
    Sometimes cold logic leads to bad conclusions.
    That makes no sense. If we use logic correctly then we will always get the right conclusions. We may not like them, but they will be right (assuming the assertions are true).

    This is one of them. It is the moral obligation of the strong to help the weak as best they can. This is not social Darwinism, I don't have a problem with some of my tax dollars helping other countries as long as Americans in trouble recieve help first, which, truthfully, is not happening.
    A person that supports social darwinism would tell people to not give to charity and not help the poor.
    A person who wants the government to tax people to help the poor is nothing more than a supporter of thievery.

    I'm proud to say that I lie between the two extremes. I'm not a social darwinist and I don't support theft either.

    Who shall ascend the hill of the Lord? And who shall stand in his holy place? He who has clean hands and a pure heart, who does not lift up his soul to what is false, and does not swear deceitfully. Psalm 24
    "True law is right reason in agreement with nature . . . Whoever is disobedient is fleeing from himself and denying his human nature [and] will suffer the worst penalties . . ." - Cicero

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