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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    That is an argument.

    It's not the government's job to engage in acts of "charity".

    Prove otherwise.

    If you attempt this, recall that charity is a voluntary act and the only tool government has is force and threats thereof.
    Reduction of tax expenditures is "charity"? I'll admit; this is certainly a new one!

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Reduction of tax expenditures is "charity"? I'll admit; this is certainly a new one!
    Are you capable of reading english sentences?

    How about American sentences?

    Those are more important.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Are you capable of reading english sentences?

    How about American sentences?

    Those are more important.
    No argument, I see. I don't know why I should have expected otherwise...

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    No. I'm not arguing with you. I don't generally expect effective rebuttal when talking to an empty room.

    How to save taxpayer money....hmmmm.....let's see, we can take it and spend it on things we're not allowed to spend it on, or we can let them keep it and not spend it on things we're not allowed to spend it on....hmmmmm which option would save them the most money?

    No, I don't expect this audience to figger that one out, nosirree bobcat tails. It's too tricky. It would require the gentlemen in the front row to surrender their flawed preconceptions and start using their frontal lobes for a change.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    To most of the above posts,you'all gave me a headache.

    Get a refund from your college, you got ripped off.


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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by rudedog View Post
    To most of the above posts,you'all gave me a headache.

    Get a refund from your college, you got ripped off.

    So nothing of any intelligence to add to the thread? Noted.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    So nothing of any intelligence to add to the thread? Noted.
    Neither was the three pages before.noted



    Illegal immigration in California cost taxpayers about 10 billion a year.

    How about we cut that out first,most will move out of state on their own,with no more freebies coming to them.

    Then we can start welfare reform,in a sensible manner,instead of just eliminating it all together at one time.

    By reducing welfare payments to lower levels,it should give incentives to people to try and get off welfare.

    By allowing people to use welfare as a way to live out their lives is not a viable solution, if they start getting hungry they may think about getting a job.
    Last edited by rudedog; 06-10-09 at 01:45 AM. Reason: to add more to post

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by rudedog View Post
    Neither was the three pages before.

    Well lay something on us then, Einstein.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well lay something on us then, Einstein.
    Jallman, I edited my post above.

    As a side note the Ca. government seems to trying to scare people with this B.S. they are talking.

    They have lots of other options open to them,but they would rather try to scare the public,mainly the poor people.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by rudedog View Post
    Jallman, I edited my post above.

    As a side note the Ca. government seems to trying to scare people with this B.S. they are talking.

    They have lots of other options open to them,but they would rather try to scare the public,mainly the poor people.
    I agree with that sentiment, wholeheartedly. If they can continue to scare the poor and the immigrants, they can keep the state blue. First thing that needs to happen in California is for the democrats to act like they are at the helm and do something besides posture to keep their vote. The Republicans need to realize that they are going to have to cooperate and press ideas rather than rhetoric and assist in setting some goals instead of throwing up roadblocks every step of the way.

    Then the fat needs to be cut from the budget and some of these needless interior projects need to be put on hold. CalWorks needs to move from a welfare program to a workfare program and solve the problem of too many idle people just doing whatever they want and still getting a meal ticket. That can only have an impact of lowering crimes and the cost associated with that.

    Along with all that, California needs to make some adjustment to the tax problem it has and start making it more hospitable to new businesses to create more jobs. California is horribly mismanaged because it's social works got out of hand.

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