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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    So now the poor are "maggots"? The classlessness of some retards on this forum never ceases to amaze me.
    You didn't know this? Maggots are grown from the eggs of flies laid in perfectly healthy flesh that then eat.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You didn't know this? Maggots are grown from the eggs of flies laid in perfectly healthy flesh that then eat.
    Which relates to the poor how?

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Like calling the poor "maggots"? Hardly.
    Why should I call people stealing my money anything either complimentary or respectful?

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL you should stop listening to Forbes and his crew. Flat tax is a horrible idea and will only benefit the rich.. who funny enough are the ones proposing such idiotic policy. Do the math and you will understand how flat tax hurts the low wage earners much more than it does the multi millionaires proposing such policies.

    Flat tax nations in Europe are the worst off at the moment. Their whole economy is at near collapse due to lack of funds and their growth has all but vanished due to the drying up of credit. Some of those very countries are talking up to a 25% drop in GDP because of the crisis.

    As for completely eliminate welfare.. move to Somalia and see how that is. Countries without any safety net rank as some of the poorest and worst off on the planet. It is a egotists dream, and all are basicly ruled by the gun and the rich. Is that how you vision your country?
    So according to your "logic", it is a bad idea to seek wisdom in financial matters from the people who actually know how wealth is generated, and have demonstrated skill in the process, when deciding how to fairly and effectively harvest some fraction of that wealth for parasitic government programs.

    Under this model of thought, it would be the height of wisdom to seek guidance from an overweight alcoholic smoker with HIV and Herpes, and bad teeth when developing a personal health regimen, and to eschew input from a octogenarian marathon runner with the blood pressure of a teenage athlete.

    OK, I see now.
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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Which relates to the poor how?
    Don't worry.

    People smart enough to not be Democrats understand the concept of metaphor.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    That would be quite a ridiculous proposal. As I noted yesterday, it's merely so basic an economic concept as the diminishing rate of marginal utility that renders a flat tax necessarily unequal. As to the "elimination" of welfare, that would also eliminate the positive externalities generated by welfare (i.e. lower crime rates), and undercut the ability of the state to maintain the physical efficiency of the working class. That said, it would ultimately destabilize capitalism, so maybe I should be all for it.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Why should I call people stealing my money anything either complimentary or respectful?
    What poor person knocked you down, stole your wallet, and went running off into the night with it?

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Don't worry.

    People smart enough to not be Democrats understand the concept of metaphor.
    I'm not a democrat and I fail to see how it relates to the poor. Are you also saying that all democrats are less intelligent? I think you're just being a partisan hack at this point.

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    What poor person knocked you down, stole your wallet, and went running off into the night with it?
    If he actually cared about the elimination of theft, he'd condemn capital accumulation through wage labor, as it relies on the unjust extraction of surplus labor in the production process and utilization in the circulation process to maintain a "vicious cycle" of sorts.



    But he can't be expected to care about anything so trivial as that!

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    Re: California Considers Flat Tax and Completely Eliminating Welfare

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    If he actually cared about the elimination of theft, he'd condemn capital accumulation through wage labor, as it relies on the unjust extraction of surplus labor in the production process and utilization in the circulation process to maintain a "vicious cycle" of sorts.



    But he can't be expected to care about anything so trivial as that!
    Well how can he when he's putting all that brain pow'r into thinking of creative names for the poor like "maggots".

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