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Tiller Suspect: More Violence Possible

"I know there are many other similar events planned around the country as long as abortion remains legal," Roeder said."

It sounds like it's time to dust off the old waterboard..
 
Sounds like it is time to declare Operation Rescue a terrorist organization.
 
Sounds like it is time to declare Operation Rescue a terrorist organization.

I would say, and I'm sure law enforcement is also saying the same thing, it is time for Operation Rescue to go under scrutiny.

I won't say right now for sure they are a domestic terrorist organization, but they definitely deserved to be watched by law enforcement.
 
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I would say, and I'm sure law enforcement is also saying the same thing, it is time for Operation Rescue to go under scrutiny.

I won't say right now for sure they are a domestic terrorist organization, but they definitely deserved to be watched by law enforcement.

I was trying for a reasonable, measured response. In my heart, after the reaction of far too many anti abortion types, they could round up the whole bunch and ship them to Gitmo and I would have to work up to caring.
 
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This is why I support the torture of terror suspects:

"I know there are many other similar events planned around the country as long as abortion remains legal," Roeder said.

What an sick freak this guy Roeder is? He is also why I support the death penalty for him and the rest of the violent anti-American fringe groups.

We have enough problems to tackle in this country without these monsters running around making their bombs and shooting people.

There's a special place in the afterlife for people who call themselves Christians yet are anything but...
 
I wonder how many leftists would support waterboarding this guy if it meant stopping a few clinic bombings or shootings.
To preserve the woman's sainted right to choose to terminate a human life?

Probably all of them.
 

Because if you look back in time your vision is always 20/20? Well I'm sure Tiller could have used your help before he died. Obviously you or somebody else would have been in the perfect position to take a killing shot milliseconds before Roeder took his. You'd be killing the big evil boogie man and being a hero to the pro-choice movement. Think about it. You'd be the last action hero because well....oh wait......20/20 hind sight. Right.

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I wonder why Operation Rescue hasn't been looked at? Obviously this guy was speaking to these people and it would seem to me like if more events are indeed being planned then the most logical place to look for it is in radical anti-abortion sites and groups.

Operation Rescue has been sued for harassment of Planned Parenthood workers, they had harassed Tiller on many occasions and even went as far as providing Roeder with the information he'd need to track down the whereabouts of Tiller at certain times.

The person that provided him with the information? A former terrorist herself had been convicted of trying to bomb an abortion clinic 20 years ago.

Just seems to me like not looking at these people is ridiculous.
 
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I was trying for a reasonable, measured response. In my heart, after the reaction of far too many anti abortion types, they could round up the whole bunch and ship them to Gitmo and I would have to work up to caring.

Well, raw emotion can do that to you. However, honestly take a look at the MAJORITY of the Pro-life people and you will see that they don't condone the actions of violence.

There may be certain elements of Operation Rescue that do, and that is why I think they should be watched closely by law enforcement, but I don't think it is a majority of them.

I do however, have a hunch that there are a minority in leadership positions of Operation Rescue that may be radical, but this is no different than minorities in Muslim groups that are also radical.

We have to be careful in Denouncing the entire organization for minority radicals in it.

I don't doubt there are a SMALL MINORITY of radicals within the group of Operation Rescue, but that doesn't mean the whole organization is at fault by default. See what I mean?
 
I wonder how many leftists would support waterboarding this guy if it meant stopping a few clinic bombings or shootings.

edit: Oh there's 1...

I wouldn't. So take that to your bank and cash your arrogance along with it for 1 penny.
 
Well, raw emotion can do that to you. However, honestly take a look at the MAJORITY of the Pro-life people and you will see that they don't condone the actions of violence.

There may be certain elements of Operation Rescue that do, and that is why I think they should be watched closely by law enforcement, but I don't think it is a majority of them.

Considering the author, I had to read this post twice to be sure, before 'thanking' it ;)
 
I wonder how many leftists would support waterboarding this guy if it meant stopping a few clinic bombings or shootings.

Not many. Who wants to hear somebody admitt to anything to get the waterboarding to stop?.this freak would be admitting to and making up things about future attacks just to save his own slimey ass from being tortured to death.

Try him in court and let him rot in prison where he belongs. As for operation rescue and their support for these types of people and these acts? A domestic terrorism investigation is warranted.
 
"I know there are many other similar events planned around the country as long as abortion remains legal," Roeder said."

It sounds like it's time to dust off the old waterboard..

Oh?

Fact is that under American law and under international treaties waterboarding is infact torture.

Can't change fact...now all we have to do is bring the criminals to justice so we can learn and move on from this stain on our country.

So you support torturing Roeder because of a threat to abortion clinics, but when national security is at issue it is a stain on the country.

Lovely double standard there.
 
Well, raw emotion can do that to you. However, honestly take a look at the MAJORITY of the Pro-life people and you will see that they don't condone the actions of violence.

There may be certain elements of Operation Rescue that do, and that is why I think they should be watched closely by law enforcement, but I don't think it is a majority of them.

I do however, have a hunch that there are a minority in leadership positions of Operation Rescue that may be radical, but this is no different than minorities in Muslim groups that are also radical.

We have to be careful in Denouncing the entire organization for minority radicals in it.

I don't doubt there are a SMALL MINORITY of radicals within the group of Operation Rescue, but that doesn't mean the whole organization is at fault by default. See what I mean?

This is why I don't actually suggest the extreme measure, I would just like it. What I would like, and what should probably happen are often different things.
 
Roeder is a terrorist, and I support torturing terrorists, so send his ass to a black prizon....
 
I wonder how many leftists would support waterboarding this guy if it meant stopping a few clinic bombings or shootings.

edit: Oh there's 1...

I would not, but then again, I tend to try and be consistent. Wrong is wrong, and when you start trying to justify your actions on the actions of others, I think that is when you start falling into traps.
 
Considering the author, I had to read this post twice to be sure, before 'thanking' it ;)

Well occasionally, our sides do come together, enjoy it. It doesn't happen all the time, but I will admit I like it when it does ;)

I blame the togetherness at times all on the whole American Value type of thing, but don't tell anyone else about it or it may be expected more often ;)
 
I was trying for a reasonable, measured response. In my heart, after the reaction of far too many anti abortion types, they could round up the whole bunch and ship them to Gitmo and I would have to work up to caring.
Now I don't know about your own personal views but I find the responses by many liberal, pro-legal abortionist quite ironic going on their views towards Islamic terrorism. Views I often share.

Again although Tiller should not have been murdered I do find him and his late-term abortions a very strange place for pro-legal abortionists to take their stand.
 
Now I don't know about your own personal views but I find the responses by many liberal, pro-legal abortionist quite ironic going on their views towards Islamic terrorism. Views I often share.

Again although Tiller should not have been murdered I do find him and his late-term abortions a very strange place for pro-legal abortionists to take their stand.

Interestingly, I am not taking a stand about Tiller. About the closest to a stand is to say that if you don't like what some one is legally doing, then change the laws. The pure out terrorism against people doing their legally allowed work is something I do not like.
 
Interestingly, I am not taking a stand about Tiller. About the closest to a stand is to say that if you don't like what some one is legally doing, then change the laws.
Indeed, although that doesn't mean he wasn't a monster(I'm not saying he was, just he could have been.).

The pure out terrorism against people doing their legally allowed work is something I do not like.
Me neither, although I think one should be careful about inflating the word terrorist. Everyone's a terrorist these days in some quarters.
 
Indeed, although that doesn't mean he wasn't a monster(I'm not saying he was, just he could have been.).

Me neither, although I think one should be careful about inflating the word terrorist. Everyone's a terrorist these days in some quarters.

Read a bit more on what all has been done. Buildings bombed, people killed, assaults, intimidation, harassment, threats. I don't think that is inflating the term. What would you call a group of people who use terror and intimidation to advance a political agenda?
 
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So you support torturing Roeder because of a threat to abortion clinics, but when national security is at issue it is a stain on the country.

Lovely double standard there.

No did I say that? He's just lucky he didn't make these kind of threatening statements a year or so ago or some igit might have tortured him.
 
Read a bit more on what all has been done. Buildings bombed, people killed, assaults, intimidation, harassment, threats. I don't think that is inflating the term. What would you call a group of people who use terror and intimidation to advance a political agenda?
No doubt a few in the extreme wing could be classed as terrorists but I'm reluctant to use that term for them as I was for the pirates. I don't much like the war on terror mentality and just feel it inadvisable. This is separate to this particular topic.
 
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