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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Time fore a survival of the fittest, free for all bout to solve this matter. America vs. Israel vs. Palestinians.
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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Yes.
    Stripping Israel of her only ally will also strip her of her only check and balance. If she no longer has to worry about the US pulling their support, then she is free to act as she chooses.

    Are you sure that's a good idea?

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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    so when we impose our will (read Iraq) it is poo pooed
    but when we impose our will (read Israel) it is a good idea
    damned if you do, damned if you dont
    This is -obviously- not the same thing.

    1: The issue here is Israel, and so the rules regarding sovereignty don't apply
    2: The Obama is a liberal Democrat, and so whatever HE does, it's good!

    Does that clear things up?

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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Stripping Israel of her only ally will also strip her of her only check and balance. If she no longer has to worry about the US pulling their support, then she is free to act as she chooses.

    Are you sure that's a good idea?
    For us? Well, I am not sure of anything that has yet to happen, but I don't see Israel doing us a ton of good, and I don't see Israel being particularly in the right in there struggle with Palestine(nor is Palestine, they are both pretty bad), so I don't think it is in our best interest to support either. Israel already does what they want, when they want to, with little restraint.

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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    We have not the right, the need, or probably the ability to impose our will on Israel. I stand by my claim that our best move is to dissociate from Israel and Palestine. We have not enough to gain, and too much to lose by any association with either.
    But then Obama would lose the Jewish and the Muslim vote. Need to check your Obama wind gauge.

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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    This is to Funny the Saudi's are telling Mr. Obama he needs to impose a what

    Sure will do as soon as you and the all the rest of the Arab Nations establish Diplomatic ties with Israel and then go after and destroy all Arab teeror groups starting with Hamas and Hezbollah, till then I suggest you shut your ****ing trap.

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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    But then Obama would lose the Jewish and the Muslim vote. Need to check your Obama wind gauge.
    What does what you say have to do with what I said that you quoted? No one is going to enact what I think we should do, so the point is totally moot.

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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For us? Well, I am not sure of anything that has yet to happen, but I don't see Israel doing us a ton of good, and I don't see Israel being particularly in the right in there struggle with Palestine(nor is Palestine, they are both pretty bad), so I don't think it is in our best interest to support either. Israel already does what they want, when they want to, with little restraint.
    Israel practices amazing restraint -- the only think that keeps them from literally wiping the Palestinians off the face of the earth is that restraint.

    Also, Israel is a nuclear power. If they are attacked, are without allies, and have nothing to lose, they will use those weapons. That's bad for everyone.

    These, among others, are the 'unintended consequences' of simply walking away from them.

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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    For us? Well, I am not sure of anything that has yet to happen, but I don't see Israel doing us a ton of good, and I don't see Israel being particularly in the right in there struggle with Palestine(nor is Palestine, they are both pretty bad), so I don't think it is in our best interest to support either. Israel already does what they want, when they want to, with little restraint.
    It's rather ironic and sad that someone who fancies themself as a liberal wants to abandon the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.

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    Re: Saudi urges Obama to impose Mideast solution - paper

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    It's rather ironic and sad that someone who fancies themself as a liberal wants to abandon the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.
    I absolutely agree. A country slap bang in the middle of the ME thats actually the only viable democracy, surrounded by monarchies and evil theocracies and dictatorships. Israels existence is more beneficial to us then it is to the Israelis, i honestly believe that. The Jews can be a tool, by setting an example of a democracy, for peace in the ME, and for spreading that ideology. To abandon a country that has turned to Democracy in such a tough and doggy region (may i quote the Jews have more balls then us westeners), the country should be hailed and not abandonened. Therefore, its our DUTY to protect Israel, not our order because of some agreement. Also, the countries history of amazing restraint and military effectiveness in the region, including great ties with the West, is all the more a reason not to turn our backs on them. We let the Jews down in the 30-40's, suffice to say it would be a mistake to turn our backs on them again.
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