Page 9 of 11 FirstFirst ... 7891011 LastLast
Results 81 to 90 of 107

Thread: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

  1. #81
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    United States
    Last Seen
    01-21-16 @ 12:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    51,124

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Well, considering that this topic has absolutely zero to do with abortion or the Tiller issue, I'd say it's clear that you have an agenda. Why not start your own thread on Tiller if the issue is so important to you, rather than derailing this one?
    Have you even tried holding a different conversation on this thread?

    You made a comment on the OP, but have you been trying to hold another discussion here that I am somehow interfering with?

    Looking over the last few pages, you haven't, so no debate of yours is suffering any damage.

    You just don't don't like what I and others have to say.

  2. #82
    Androgyne
    Dr_Patrick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Montana
    Last Seen
    12-16-15 @ 11:50 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    9,349
    Blog Entries
    7

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Have you even tried holding a different conversation on this thread?

    You made a comment on the OP, but have you been trying to hold another discussion here that I am somehow interfering with?

    Looking over the last few pages, you haven't, so no debate of yours is suffering any damage.

    You just don't don't like what I and others have to say.
    I have no qualms with your views on abortion and Tiller. I really could care less. And it is a good topic worthy of discussion, but you are currently derailing this thread based on an absurd and very thin connection that only you and a few others see.

  3. #83
    Educator Frodly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Last Seen
    06-26-16 @ 02:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Left
    Posts
    684

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If the crime had happened 8 1/2 months earlier, not only would this teen be seen as a hero by 'the left', but you the criminal for condemning the act.


    Yes, we on the left love those who rape and murder fetuses!! I sometimes wonder how conservatives can be so stupid, and yet still function in society!!
    I'm a Tarte, what!! You want some of this??

    To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead. -- Thomas Paine

  4. #84
    Sage
    jamesrage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    A place where common sense exists
    Last Seen
    12-10-17 @ 09:23 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Conservative
    Posts
    31,067

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Frodly View Post
    Yes, we on the left love those who rape and murder fetuses!! I sometimes wonder how conservatives can be so stupid, and yet still function in society!!
    If you have no problem with hundreds of "fetuses" that is 21-37 weeks having their limbs being cut off and head drilled into and killed why would you have a problem with one 8 month old baby being killed and rape?
    Last edited by jamesrage; 06-08-09 at 01:51 PM.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

  5. #85
    Advisor
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Last Seen
    11-30-09 @ 04:11 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    446

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If you have no problem with hundreds of "fetuses" that is 21-37 weeks having their limbs being cut off and head drilled into and killed why would you have a problem with one 8 month old baby being killed and rape?
    Meh, it's so hard to decide where to post this to since any thread with "baby" in the title automatically steers towards abortion rights.

    In any case, aside from the obvious differences between what an unborn fetus should have...

    Is there or is there NOT a pretty significant difference between the rape and murder of an 8 month old and legal optional choice of a woman to abort her fetus.

    I mean, besides the fact that, oh I don't know- one was definitely alive and the other could still have been stillborn. Besides the fact that one was legal and the other was illegal. Besides the fact that one had rape involved and the other didn't. Besides the fact that Rapist/Murderer A chose to end the life of a toddler and Doctor B did what he was legally obligated to do and what Paying Customer C paid him to do (this is a capitalistic society right?).

    I don't understand why Doctor B should be justifiably murdered even though he wouldn't be "murdering fetuses" without the consent of Paying Customer C. I don't really think he enjoys "murdering fetuses" but we all do work our jobs to get money right? Why should Tiller be the target of violence when he's doing what is legally his right to do? Why shouldn't these insane psychopath confused Pro-life (irony?) murderers go after the women who choose to have the abortions? Why don't they use the same scare tactics on them?

    Can we agree that, if ANYBODY (which I don't agree with, as I'm pro-choice) is to be morally blameworthy for these actions, shouldn't it be the women who make the decisions to go see the big bad abortion doctors? Also, if the Tiller killer instead killed the women who went to go see Tiller, would he be getting as much support from some pro-lifers as he is now?

  6. #86
    Matthew 16:3

    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Last Seen
    06-24-17 @ 05:05 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    45,603

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    What agenda?

    You have to prove to me that I even have an agenda to begin with

    Over the last few weeks in particular I've been linking relevant material from one thread into another. This but one single occasion. I brought up Tiller in Inferno's gun thread suggesting that if Tiller carried, he might still be alive. I Also linked Chevydriver's personal story of when his family was assaulted by a skin head in that same gun thread. I've been linking other threads back into Inferno's "why do males have an abortion opinion" thread for quite a while now. This is by far nothing new.

    But only NOW do I get accused of having an agenda.
    Yes, it's not new, but it's the first one that I've seen from you that had such a weak connection.

    If your reference in this thread had been only regarding Obama's vote against the lifesaving-measures bill, I would really have had no comment, as to me, that particular reference would be perfectly relevant (birth occurs in both scenarios).

    That being said, I will retract the comments I've made. I'll explain the reasoning for this later in this post.

    I would have thought you could come up with a better debate tactic than that.
    I don't know where you'd get that idea from.


    The age of the 2 victims being so close is why I see relevance. You don't agree, and that's fine, you are welcome to your own opinion. However, some of us, including the guy who started this thread, see a connection.
    The part you bolded is why I'm retracting the comments. Seems to me that if the guy who started the thread agrees, I should probably STFU.
    Tucker Case - Tard magnet.

  7. #87
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    United States
    Last Seen
    01-21-16 @ 12:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    51,124

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I have no qualms with your views on abortion and Tiller. I really could care less. And it is a good topic worthy of discussion, but you are currently derailing this thread based on an absurd and very thin connection that only you and a few others see.
    You can't accuse me of derailing the thread when there was never another train on the track but this one.

  8. #88
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    United States
    Last Seen
    01-21-16 @ 12:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    51,124

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    Meh, it's so hard to decide where to post this to since any thread with "baby" in the title automatically steers towards abortion rights.

    In any case, aside from the obvious differences between what an unborn fetus should have...

    Is there or is there NOT a pretty significant difference between the rape and murder of an 8 month old and legal optional choice of a woman to abort her fetus.

    I mean, besides the fact that, oh I don't know- one was definitely alive and the other could still have been stillborn. Besides the fact that one was legal and the other was illegal. Besides the fact that one had rape involved and the other didn't. Besides the fact that Rapist/Murderer A chose to end the life of a toddler and Doctor B did what he was legally obligated to do and what Paying Customer C paid him to do (this is a capitalistic society right?).

    I don't understand why Doctor B should be justifiably murdered even though he wouldn't be "murdering fetuses" without the consent of Paying Customer C. I don't really think he enjoys "murdering fetuses" but we all do work our jobs to get money right? Why should Tiller be the target of violence when he's doing what is legally his right to do? Why shouldn't these insane psychopath confused Pro-life (irony?) murderers go after the women who choose to have the abortions? Why don't they use the same scare tactics on them?

    Can we agree that, if ANYBODY (which I don't agree with, as I'm pro-choice) is to be morally blameworthy for these actions, shouldn't it be the women who make the decisions to go see the big bad abortion doctors? Also, if the Tiller killer instead killed the women who went to go see Tiller, would he be getting as much support from some pro-lifers as he is now?
    At this point I wish our resident Baby Eating Monster would show up and give us his opinion on how while neither child may be of use to society, each should meet a humain end well within the lines of the law if it is to be disposed of.

  9. #89
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    United States
    Last Seen
    01-21-16 @ 12:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    51,124

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    The part you bolded is why I'm retracting the comments. Seems to me that if the guy who started the thread agrees, I should probably STFU.
    I love ya bro, no hard feelins.

    Let's go have a drink

  10. #90
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    09-22-10 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    11,430

    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    This is the way I have always felt.

    I would still have strict punishment applied to minors but I would not try a minor as an adult reguardless of the crime. I would just make harsher punishment for minors that commit the worst crimes.
    No, there's limits and expected behaviors. A seventeen year old knows perfectly well that it's a crime to kidnap anyone, it's crime to rape anyone, it's a crime to beat anyone, and it's crime to kill anyone. And he's old enough to know that it's worse crime when that "anyone" is a baby.

    So stake him out on an anthill naked and paint his balls with honey, the walk away. His parents, if they're not too embarassed for having created such a thing, can come by in a week to collect whatever's left.

Page 9 of 11 FirstFirst ... 7891011 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •