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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Execution is legal and therefore not murder. Abortionist should know this since many of them like to remind pro-lifers/anti-abortionist that since abortion is legal it is not murder.
    Well I was damned either way.

    Either I call the state action "murder" of I call tiller's death "killing".

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    In both cases I support their right to due process
    IN regards to abortion there is no such thing as due process. Even if Tiller was convicted of illegally performing late term abortion he still would not be charged with murder. What then?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    In both cases I support their right to live.
    ....and?.....

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    I am aware that I'm not a "Cristian authority". That's why I asked you, yet you deflect.
    You asked, but you weren't asking out of genuine curiosity, so yes I deflected

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Well I was damned either way.

    Either I call the state action "murder" of I call tiller's death "killing".
    Killing is a universal term. Kill means to deprive one of life.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    IN regards to abortion there is no such thing as due process. Even if Tiller was convicted of illegally performing late term abortion he still would not be charged with murder. What then?
    Some states do charge "murder" for the wrongful death of the unborn...his state was not one?

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Killing is a universal term. Kill means to deprive one of life.
    "Killing" is legal, that's the difference, and I wasn't about to call Tiller's assassination legal.

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ....and?.....
    Just stating my position, as you did a few posts ago.


    You asked, but you weren't asking out of genuine curiosity, so yes I deflected
    That's because we both know the answer to my question, Jerry.
    "An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it." - Gandhi

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Sure they are. But both are living creatures. To extinguish the life of a killer is to be a hypocrite.
    No its not.To execute a killer is to ensure he does not kill again and to give him an ultimate punishment. This in some way also encourages others to not do the same,because I am sure if 1st degree murder was punishable with a slap on the wrist more people would do it.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    That's because we both know the answer to my question, Jerry.
    Apparently only you do, because I don't subscribe to any of the pacifist denominations of Christianity.

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    "Killing" is legal, that's the difference, and.
    No,killing can be legal and illegal. When it is illegal killing it is called murder or manslaughter.


    I wasn't about to call Tiller's assassination legal.
    Neither was I since vigilante killing or assassination is not legal.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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