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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No, there's limits and expected behaviors. A seventeen year old knows perfectly well that it's a crime to kidnap anyone, it's crime to rape anyone, it's a crime to beat anyone, and it's crime to kill anyone. And he's old enough to know that it's worse crime when that "anyone" is a baby.

    So stake him out on an anthill naked and paint his balls with honey, the walk away. His parents, if they're not too embarassed for having created such a thing, can come by in a week to collect whatever's left.
    I don't support prison violence, but I'm not going to be sorry for him if someone shanks him while he's handing out pamphlets at the door to the prison's chapel.

    If we put him in my incinerator, we will always know where he is and what he's doing. My incinerator actually has an outstanding track record. Not one single offender who has been place inside it has repeated their offense. Not even one.

    Also, while in my incinerator, I personally grantee that he will not be shot, stabbed, raped, brutalized by police or guards, at all.

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Helping Pro-Choice see the Tiller murder from the other side

    I mean, come on, everyone is going to agree with the OP, so there's not much else we could do with this thread.
    Then you should have done nothing with it.

    There's plenty that can be done with this thread from the OP and not this absurd irrelevant tiller crap. Push your tiller to windward until your boat capsizes, so long as it's not on this thread, jeez.

    Issues raised on this thread:

    Matter of majority. Is Tough Guy Baby Raper old enough to understand what he did wrong and is thus properly subject for trial as an adult.

    I say "of course".

    Should the defense arguments that TGBR is suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome, effects from drugs, a bad childhood, teen-age angst, etc etc etc make me puke etc, relevant to his crime.

    No. Of course not. If he killed the kid, execute him.

    Should he be sentenced to capital punishment?

    No, since capital punishment isn't applied reliably. Instead, send him to prison as a baby raper and killer and make sure the guards tell the inmates how old the baby was.

    Inmates have their own courts and don't give appeals.

    If you want to babble abortion, there's an entire forum for that, isn't there?

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Then you should have done nothing with it.

    There's plenty that can be done with this thread from the OP and not this absurd irrelevant tiller crap. Push your tiller to windward until your boat capsizes, so long as it's not on this thread, jeez.

    Issues raised on this thread:

    Matter of majority. Is Tough Guy Baby Raper old enough to understand what he did wrong and is thus properly subject for trial as an adult.

    I say "of course".

    Should the defense arguments that TGBR is suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome, effects from drugs, a bad childhood, teen-age angst, etc etc etc make me puke etc, relevant to his crime.

    No. Of course not. If he killed the kid, execute him.

    Should he be sentenced to capital punishment?

    No, since capital punishment isn't applied reliably. Instead, send him to prison as a baby raper and killer and make sure the guards tell the inmates how old the baby was.

    Inmates have their own courts and don't give appeals.

    If you want to babble abortion, there's an entire forum for that, isn't there?
    Ah so you want to make this about capitol punishment.

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Ah so you want to make this about capitol punishment.
    No.

    I want to discuss the issue at hand, which I presume is what to do with such a creature, who, btw is different from Tiller, who operated from purely pecuniary motives.

    I expect that what I'm posting is much much closer to the intent of the OP than the BS you trawled in.

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post

    If you want to babble abortion, there's an entire forum for that, isn't there?
    It's not often I agree with Scarecrow on anything. This time I have to though.

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No.

    I want to discuss the issue at hand, which I presume is what to do with such a creature, who, btw is different from Tiller, who operated from purely pecuniary motives.

    I expect that what I'm posting is much much closer to the intent of the OP than the BS you trawled in.
    While the author may also be interested in discussing your angle, he was interested in mine

    We're all going to agree that the teen is scum, that the act was wrong...so...what's left to discuss?
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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    At this point I wish our resident Baby Eating Monster would show up and give us his opinion on how while neither child may be of use to society, each should meet a humain end well within the lines of the law if it is to be disposed of.
    Care to explain how that answers my questions or addresses the point of my post? I spoke to those who support the pro-lifers, mostly. I would also take a well-thought out response from pro-choicers. However, baby-eating-monsters? I'm not sure how that addresses any points and I don't even think DP.com has any of those.

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

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    Care to explain how that answers my questions or addresses the point of my post? I spoke to those who support the pro-lifers, mostly. I would also take a well-thought out response from pro-choicers. However, baby-eating-monsters? I'm not sure how that addresses any points and I don't even think DP.com has any of those.
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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    At this point I wish our resident Baby Eating Monster would show up and give us his opinion on how while neither child may be of use to society, each should meet a humain end well within the lines of the law if it is to be disposed of.
    The rapist is what, seventeen? He's a grown man and shouldn't expect our sympathy for his crimes because of his age. But you are right, there is neither reason nor excuse to give in to our desire to make him suffer because he "deserves" it. Just put him down, quick and clean, and try not to think too hard about what he did that necessitated it.

    Also, there's nothing in the story to indicate there was anything wrong with the victim before this broken thing violated and murdered him. There was no imposition against the murderer, no biological or financial burden placed upon him, and the baby was not only viable but already born and thriving. Healthy babies are probably the most important resource any society has, and ought to be guarded jealously against those who would steal them or destroy them.

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    Re: West Bank teen arrested in rape and murder of 8-month-old

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    While the author may also be interested in discussing your angle, he was interested in mine

    We're all going to agree that the teen is scum, that the act was wrong...so...what's left to discuss?
    What I posted.

    There's a list of differences about what to do from here.

    Of course, I did not list "petition The Messiah for a Lazarus Intervention", that's always a possibility, and then perhaps the seventeen year old monster wouldn't be a murderer. But I don't hold out much hope of that. As far as I can tell, The Messiah is more interested in apologizing for things the United States hasn't done, in rescuing his banker friends, and playing CEO of a multinational car company, something he doesn't have the skill to do, just like his presidency.

    But that's really not the topic.

    Abortion isn't related to the topic, no, not in any sensible way.

    What is related to the topic is what to do with the maggot if we're not allowed to put it between two boards and step on the top one.

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