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    Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Now this I don't understand. Tennessee has some of the toughest DWI laws in the country, but they now pass a law that says that you can wear a gun in a bar while getting drunk? That is sure going to cut down on crimes of passion, committed in drunken rages, isn't it?

    I don't know about anybody else, but IMHO, every member of the Tennessee Congress that voted this bill into law and overrode the governor's veto deserves a share in this year's Idiot of the Year Awards.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Now this I don't understand. Tennessee has some of the toughest DWI laws in the country, but they now pass a law that says that you can wear a gun in a bar while getting drunk? That is sure going to cut down on crimes of passion, committed in drunken rages, isn't it?

    I don't know about anybody else, but IMHO, every member of the Tennessee Congress that voted this bill into law and overrode the governor's veto deserves a share in the year's Idiot of the Year Awards.

    Article is here.
    I disagree, it won't make much of a difference in gun crime.
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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I disagree, it won't make much of a difference in gun crime.

    As a gun owner myself, you won't catch me dead mixing guns with alcohol. It is absolutely crazy, and so is the new Tennessee law.
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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    So now you take the ownership rights away from the Bar owners.

    If a Bar owner doesn't want people to carry firearms in HIS ESTABLISHMENT, that is his right.

    Much like if I don't want someone to bring in their firearm to my home I have the right to tell him to not come in or leave it.

    The Gun owners don't have to go to his bar.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So now you take the ownership rights away from the Bar owners.
    Does the law do that?

    I read where it made it legal to carry a weapon into a bar or restaurant....but I don't see where that precludes the right of the bar owner to ban firearms on his own premises.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Now this I don't understand. Tennessee has some of the toughest DWI laws in the country, but they now pass a law that says that you can wear a gun in a bar while getting drunk? That is sure going to cut down on crimes of passion, committed in drunken rages, isn't it?

    I don't know about anybody else, but IMHO, every member of the Tennessee Congress that voted this bill into law and overrode the governor's veto deserves a share in this year's Idiot of the Year Awards.

    Article is here.
    It should be up to the bar owners but if they want to then they should be able to allow guns.
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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So now you take the ownership rights away from the Bar owners.

    If a Bar owner doesn't want people to carry firearms in HIS ESTABLISHMENT, that is his right.

    Much like if I don't want someone to bring in their firearm to my home I have the right to tell him to not come in or leave it.

    The Gun owners don't have to go to his bar.
    Exactly, it is just like the idiotic smoking bans.
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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Does the law do that?

    I read where it made it legal to carry a weapon into a bar or restaurant....but I don't see where that precludes the right of the bar owner to ban firearms on his own premises.
    If it is saying they have the right to carry on the premises, it is overriding the wishes of the owner. Again, if you can prove me wrong do so.

    But the law says what is says.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Exactly, it is just like the idiotic smoking bans.
    I agree fully. I think Private Owners should be able to restrict or not restict certain things.

    Whether smoking should be permitted or not should be the judgemnet of the Owner.

    I live in Reno, NV as well as I have asthma, and before the smoking ban I wouldn't visit places that allowed smoking and I was quite happy with that because before the ban there were many that didn't allow smoking on their own. I didn't feel a ban was necessary at all.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If it is saying they have the right to carry on the premises, it is overriding the wishes of the owner. Again, if you can prove me wrong do so.

    But the law says what is says.
    From the text of the HB0962:

    (C) This subdivision (c)(3) is subject to the provisions of § 39-17-1359, permitting a property owner to post notices on such property prohibiting firearms.
    Seems to me the law takes the decision out of the hands of government and puts it in the hands of bar owners....which is where it belongs.

    My initial reaction was distinctly negative, but, reading this, I actually think this is a proper thing to do. No, firearms and alcohol do not mix, but it is not the responsibility of government to protect citizens from their own stupidity.

    I have no doubt the prudent bar owner will waste no time in posting a "check your guns at the door" sign.

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