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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Now this I don't understand. Tennessee has some of the toughest DWI laws in the country, but they now pass a law that says that you can wear a gun in a bar while getting drunk? ].

    This is in error, apparently. The article linked to says:


    Both the Tennessee House of Representatives and the Senate have overruled a veto by Tennessee Governor Phil Bredesen on a bill that makes carrying handguns into bars legal, it was announced Friday. Consuming alcohol while carrying a handgun will remain illegal, but those with a permit to carry a weapon will be allowed to do so in any restaurant or bar. Owners can still opt to ban handguns from their establishments.
    You can carry into a bar, IF the bar owner does not choose to post against it, and IF you do not consume alcohol while armed.

    I have no problem with this at all. Carrying while drinking I would have had a problem with, but that remains illegal according to the article.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    People don't only go into bars to drink.
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-07-09 at 12:02 AM.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    People don't only go into bars to drink.
    They like to look at girls too.
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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Carrying while drinking I would have had a problem with,
    I sort on agree on the one-hand but seeing the state trying breathalyze gun owners is something that would unnerve me(well obviously considering I live in Australia and want to return to Britain it is a little academic but you get the point. ).
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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    People don't only go into bars to drink.
    And in my state, there's a little problem: SC does not legally recognize "bars" as a business establishment. They're all classified as "restaurants that serve alcohol." So technically I can't carry into a restaurant if they serve alcohol, whether I'm drinking or not. (I don't drink, so its not an issue for me.)

    Personally I think this sucks, and I'm working to get something similar passed in SC, so you can carry as long as you are not drinking.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I sort on agree on the one-hand but seeing the state trying breathalyze gun owners is something that would unnerve me(well obviously considering I live in Australia and want to return to Britain it is a little academic but you get the point. ).
    They can breathalyze car owners so why not?

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    They can breathalyze car owners so why not?
    Because it is even more police busy-bodyism. Extra interference from the state is always to be treated cautiously. I'm not saying I'm necessarily against it, just that any such more interference is always going to rub me the wrong way a little bit.
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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So now you take the ownership rights away from the Bar owners.
    Well heck i can not smoke in a bar anymore here in Dallas. Even if the Bar owner wants smoking. Guess what not only the patron gets fined the bar owner does too an equal amount.

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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well heck i can not smoke in a bar anymore here in Dallas. Even if the Bar owner wants smoking. Guess what not only the patron gets fined the bar owner does too an equal amount.
    Indeed but those laws are idiotic and almost destroy private property. They are not a good argument for any extra moves, although of course they pretty much give carte blanche to any state intervention in private property, a major reason why they should be fought so enthusiastically(other reasons include the EU is very much in favour of them.).
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    Re: Tennessee lawmakers approve handguns in bars, override veto

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    As a gun owner myself, you won't catch me dead mixing guns with alcohol. It is absolutely crazy, and so is the new Tennessee law.
    When an issue like this comes up, I almost always default to freedom.

    Remember everyone freaking out saying conceal carry laws will turn everything into the wild west and all that.
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