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I know you need to devalue the baby
You are not getting it.
The value is zero until its a baby.
so that your conscience can remain unstained by your advocation of murdering children,
Wow, now we don't care how inaccurate our terminology is as long as it will be inflammatory eh ?
but by all standards of reason, we are talking about a baby by that stage of development.
You are talking about what you consider a baby.
I not only don't have to agree with you, I don't even need to consider your rigamarole of comparison. I am at liberty to make my own decision in the matter, and I say it's a baby once its born. None of your science arguments gain any traction here, as my personal decision on the point at which to start valuing that Human is mine alone, and I do not have to base it off of your parallels or your opinions.
It's awfully funny the somersaults in logic the mind will endure as a coping mechanism against our own base thoughts.
I am not doing any somersaults, I just disagree with you about something unprovable.
I know what it states. Nothing in that statement makes my assertion false. If you think it does, please elaborate but I know now that my tolerance for selective emphasis on single words to the exclusion of the whole document is exactly 0. But if you think you can make your case...
Citizens are born. Womb contents are not citizens.
Yes a citizen, just not one that has left the womb yet.
Sorry pal, the Constitution states that persons born are citizens.
The activity of late term abortion is the entire society's business as it directly impacts a baby citizen with pain, suffering, and deprivation of the most basic of rights.
Society's business is much better handled by staying the hell out of family decisions and squabbles.
Heres the big point that I have not even gotten out yet.
Consider this jallman:
Society is having its town hall meeting. You decry abortion. I stand up and ask if the Town Hall will fall down if we ignore abortions. Since it won't, why don't we just ignore tham, rather than try to get violence on a large portion of our already existant citizens ? I simply reject your interference in the reproductive cycle of other citizens as rude and unwarranted. Attack already existant citizens over a potential citizen ? Are you Nuts ?