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Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

Jerry said:
As innocent as murderers who get off on a technicalities, yes.
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Prove it. If you are going to call him a murderer, prove it or admit you are smearing the man.
 
Redress said:
Prove it. If you are going to call him a murderer, prove it or admit you are smearing the man.
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Prove what? That he got away with it? You've got to be ****ing kidding me :lol:
 
celticlord said:
Why am I suddenly inspired to launch a petition drive to outlaw all abortions anywhere as murdering unborn children?
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Probably ONLY because you will never be in my presence, with someone you don't want to be humiliated in front of.
 
Voidwar said:
Probably ONLY because you will never be in my presence, with someone you don't want to be humiliated in front of.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Especially with my low self esteem and fragile ego, I really have to watch out for such things.:roll:
 
Jerry said:
Prove what? That he got away with it? You've got to be ****ing kidding me :lol:
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We are still talking about Tiller, right?

Because, as he's dead, I'm not sure anyone could argue he "got away with it"....at least not in the final analysis.

The second most terrifying curse in the world is to wish a man get what he truly deserves.
 
Voidwar said:
Probably ONLY because you will never be in my presence, with someone you don't want to be humiliated in front of.
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I love it when someone physically threatens others over the internetz :lol:
 
metreon said:
The post Goshin ridiculed was probably making an obscure (read: poorly worded) reference to the early days of the Catholic church, however even then the Church was not that indiscriminate with righteous reprisal. If one was a believer, one willingly paid for tithes and indulgences and was embraced lovingly (or at least indifferently) by the Church. If a person was a nonbeliever, they might be labelled a heretic and then they could murdered and their property seized. Wasn't that in part the rationale of the Crusades?

Of course, he could have also been speaking more broadly, since the similar violent lust for money and/or power is evident in any historic "holy" war. Religion is often the guise of politics, and sometimes very poor one. Henry VIII looted monasteries and probably used the immense wealth gathered violently from that "reformation" of the Church to fund later military exploits, like the second conquest of Ireland. Many heads have worn the veil of theology, but beneath its curtain, many eyes have also gleamed with greed.

And many churches today still seem to retain their interest in power and money, even if their power mongering today is nonviolent, by means of politicking alone. Modern televangelists are a cliche for this new, domesticated version of the same historical lust, as they are always praying upon their audiences for money. (pun intended).

I suspect his concern, however inarticulate, was to emphasize, that despite the firm grip rationality has over many developed societies today, we are still the same breed of people that once willingly sanctified brutal violence with the righteous conviction. And for many others, righteous intolerance is simply the mask they wear for other purposes. And it could happen again, at any time, anywhere.
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This post was well put..thanks for clearing that up for me.
 
Jerry said:
Prove what? That he got away with it? You've got to be ****ing kidding me :lol:
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Prove he was a murderer. You keep making the accusation, and that he only got away with it on technicalities. Since you know so much about it, you should be able to prove it.
 
Redress said:
Prove he was a murderer. You keep making the accusation, and that he only got away with it on technicalities. Since you know so much about it, you should be able to prove it.
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We just had this discussion on another thread that expended well beyond it's 100page/1,000post limit in a day and a half, and you're STILL demanding evidence?

I guess I would first have to come out and accuse him of being guilty under the law before I went on to prove that claim under that law.

I haven't, you seem to have missed that minor detail.
 
jfuh said:
If you say you don't like someone, list all the reasons, and proclaim that this person is a demon, a murder and monster, yes that insinuates that you think this person ought be killed.
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Actually, what you just said is completely absurd. Please do not go into business as a mind reader...you're really bad at it.
 
Jerry said:
We just had this discussion on another thread that expended well beyond it's 100page/1,000post limit in a day and a half, and you're STILL demanding evidence?

I guess I would first have to come out and accuse him of being guilty under the law before I went on to prove that claim under that law.

I haven't, you seem to have missed that minor detail.
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So we are back to the guy being not guilty of any crime, and you calling him a murderer and all that is just hyperbole.
 
Redress said:
So we are back to the guy being not guilty of any crime, and you calling him a murderer and all that is just hyperbole.
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Just as a murderer who gets off on a technicality is "not guilty" of any crime under the law, yes.
 
celticlord said:
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Especially with my low self esteem and fragile ego, I really have to watch out for such things.:roll:
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My decision, to change my own tolerance to zero, based on the assassination last Sunday, is my own, and I doubt we will ever be in the same room. That said, you can roll around this website with all the bravado you like, but then, this is just typing, and nothing like heat of the moment public speaking in a room of live people. I have embarassed people before by crushing them in public, and it usually made me feel quite bad to hurt a person's ego, or their sense of self worth. I have a genius level IQ, and I recognize the advantage this gives me over most folks, and in light of that, I try never to hurt another person's mind, on purpose. With last Sunday's assassination, that policy is revised, and folks mouthing pro-life voting within my hearing, will be directly challenged and unless challenge elicits recantment, of this intent to deny my religious liberty, the humiliation and denigration is ON.
 
Jerry said:
I love it when someone physically threatens others over the internetz :lol:
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Why quote my posting ? I never threatened anyone physically. Read Harder.
 
Jerry said:
Just as a murderer who gets off on a technicality is "not guilty" of any crime under the law, yes.
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But you still have not shown any evidence, period, that he is either a murderer, or got off on a technicality. You are just making it up.
 
Voidwar said:
My decision, to change my own tolerance to zero, based on the assassination last Sunday, is my own, and I doubt we will ever be in the same room. That said, you can roll around this website with all the bravado you like, but then, this is just typing, and nothing like heat of the moment public speaking in a room of live people. I have embarassed people before by crushing them in public, and it usually made me feel quite bad to hurt a person's ego, or their sense of self worth. I have a genius level IQ, and I recognize the advantage this gives me over most folks, and in light of that, I try never to hurt another person's mind, on purpose. With last Sunday's assassination, that policy is revised, and folks mouthing pro-life voting within my hearing, will be directly challenged and unless challenge elicits recantment, of this intent to deny my religious liberty, the humiliation and denigration is ON.
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.....with all the bravado you like....
 
Redress said:
But you still have not shown any evidence, period, that he is either a murderer, or got off on a technicality. You are just making it up.
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We've already been through all that on the other thread :doh
 
Jerry said:
We've already been through all that on the other thread :doh
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Then why are you still trying to smear someone with a term that you know doesn't apply ?
 
Moderator's Warning:
I think Zyph already left a warning. I'm going to leave another just to remind you folks of two things. Personal attacks will be dealt with by removal from this thread and possible infraction; and remember, this thread is about Tiller and abortion. Those of you who would prefer to bash Christianity can go elsewhere.
 
hiswoman said:
Pssst....be careful. You're not the only genius on the board :attn2:
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I never claimed to be, and I am not posting it to toot my own horn, but rather to elucidate the source of my ability to execute the aforementioned revision of policy.
 
hiswoman said:
Pssst....be careful. You're not the only genius on the board :attn2:
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Yikes!

You mean there's more clever folk here? Dagnabit, there goes the neighborhood.:2razz:

(Be afraid....be very afraid......)
 
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