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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Exactly, and nobody (except maybe for jfuh) is saying that people have to change their stance on this man just because he was murdered.
    And just to be clear, I am very, very prochoice.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    What else does "agreeing" with a terrorist imply in your mind?
    I agree a corrupt government in Kansas buffered Tiller from the law. I believe a corrupt governor in exchange for campaign funding vetoed a law that passed the Kansas state legislator. I also believe a corrupt DA fired a state prosecutor so he could replace him with someone who was more favorable to the agenda of continuing to let Tiller skirt the law.

    I believe all that. So does the guy who killed Tiller. In that respect him and I are in agreement.

    Would I have killed Dr. Tiller myself? No.

    Would I have advocated that someone else should kill him? No.

    Do I think killing him was the right thing to do? No.

    Do I think the guy in jail should not be treated like a criminal? No.

    Did I hum ding dong the witch is dead upon hearing of Tiller's death? Yep.

    Do I think Tiller was a monster? Yep.

    I won't apologize for that.

    In my mind Tiller is no more worthy of my tears or concern than a serial killer.

    I would have preferred the law deal with Tiller in a lawful manner but I can't say I'm upset some whacko took him out. If a guy is gonna grab a gun and kill someone - Tiller was a good choice.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    lolz.

    I do agree with him though. There was lots of government corruption protecting Tiller from the law.
    jfuh, do you not see my lolz in my original post? That is in reference to the guy being surprised he is being treated like a criminal.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I would have preferred the law deal with Tiller in a lawful manner but I can't say I'm upset some whacko took him out. If a guy is gonna grab a gun and kill someone - Tiller was a good choice.
    Exactly. As far as Tiller's death as a stand alone issue, my sympathy lies with the maggots that have to share a bed with the monster now.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Even you must agree that such would be less distressing to the general public.
    I see, it is in the public's best interest to only commit murder where there are no witnesses. I get it.

    "Look your Honor, we were miles outta town when I shot the guy in the skull... It's like when a tree falls in the woods...No harm, no fowl. If I hadn't kept his head in my freezer, nobody would be the wiser. So how about a little leniency over here?!"

    You are one hell of a legal scholar... Just like Dax Shepard in Idiocracy.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I see, it is in the public's best interest to only commit murder where there are no witnesses. I get it.
    I said it was less distressing. Do you argue that it is better for people to watch someone being murdered?

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    What is the big problem?

    Yes what has happened is horrific in the sense that children got deprived of a father, a wife a husband, Grandfather and the way he was killed was undignified as well.
    But the person behind it will face punishment for what he has done.
    No matter how much you disagree with Abortion, reacting by killing the doctor is unacceptable and i'm pretty sure 99% of pro lifers agree.

    Saying that, Tiller doesn't exactly seem like a lovely human being to me.
    Dismembering babies at such a late stage is hardly human like, its almost murder imo. But fate seems to have a way of catching up.


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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    You're going to have to realize that a lot of people, while condoning his murder, don't support Tiller's actions and never have.
    Good for them, a lot of Taliban find that women learning is abosolutely deplorable an idea.
    It really doesn't matter what they think of Tiller's actions, what Tiller did was legal. There was never any wrong doing not any evidence that what tiller did was improper.
    The problem with the demonization and vilification of Tiller is that it leads to the belief by those such as the murderer that their vigilanty act was completely legitimate. It's precisely why he's crying corrupt government now. If it is the act that they have issue with what is the point of vilifying Tiller? Take it through the proper means, the constant picketing at abortion clinics and demonization of both employees at and patients who go is nothing short of terrorizing. Abortion, however heinus one thinks of it, is a legal right indifferent to voting and gun ownership.

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise
    Why would they start just because he was killed?
    I'm not saying they should start, I'm saying they need to stop demonizing figureheads.

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise
    A lot of people share the belief that he was being protected by corruption in the government. Why should that bother you?
    Alot of people also once thought that inter racial relationships and permission of by the government demonstrates a corrupt government. That forcing minorities to be in the same facility and section of the majority was representative of a corrupt goverment.
    Unless there is evidence of corruption of the government it's nothing but a irrational belief.

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise
    If you are secure enough in your own beliefs about it, why should you care what other people think?
    It's because people like me didn't care that resulted in such act taking place in the first place.
    This was not the first case of violence against abortion clinics, and this won't be the last. As long as the practitioners and providers are vilified and demonized as people that enjoy the death of the innocent with the sensationalism and emotion rather than rationalization there will be more and more sufferage and violence.
    That's why I need to care.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Whether the corruption is actually there or not is irrelevant to your blatant falsehood and attempt to paint talloulou as a terror sympathizer over her post. She did not sypathize with the terrorism; she simply affirmed her belief that there was corruption shielding Tiller.

    But I do understand the need for the weak-minded to resort to boorish tactics like vilification when their arguments fall short on logic so I will overlook your attempt at such from here on.
    If I got a penny for every time you come on here playing your I'm going to iggy you routine.
    Nice to see how some people never change.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    If I got a penny for every time you come on here playing your I'm going to iggy you routine.
    Nice to see how some people never change.
    Again, you lie. Where did I say I was going to "iggy" you? I simply stated that I would overlook your decietful attempts to reframe debates in false terms. I give you that leniency because I have learned that you simply cannot help yourself because you want to play with your intellectual superiors so badly you'll do anything to stay in the game.

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