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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That would be for one year, except it was spread over 7 years.
    That's just for governor. The amount of money poured in from both prolife and prochoice campaigns along with Dr. Tiller for the DA race was truly incredible. To really understand what Tiller did to Kansas and how politicized abortion became in Kansas read this:

    Kansas is deadly epicenter in abortion debate - Life- msnbc.com

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Dr. hired by the state to review records was Paul McHugh.
    It appears you where sonewhat correct. McHugh does not appear to have protested, but does appear to have gone on a crusade, and had a cease and desist order filed against him(source: http://operationrescue.org/pdfs/Morr...reat061207.pdf).

    Don McKinney is the guy who protested outside Tiller's clinic, and was the special prosecutor assigned to the Tiller case, a clear conflict of interest(source: Kansas Abortion Prosecutor Fired - washingtonpost.com).

    The attorney General who hired McKinney is Phil Kline. One of his wonderful acts in office was Limon vs Kansas: "During his tenure, in the case of Limon v. State, Kline defended a Kansas law which provided substantially[specify] higher sentencing guidelines for acts of homosexual statutory rape compared to equivalent heterosexual acts.(source: [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phill_Kline]Phill Kline - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame])

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Paul Mc Hugh didn't go on a crusade. He was shocked by what he saw when asked to investigate and he wanted that shock and what he saw to be aired publicly. Hardly a crusade. Of course they want him to stop. It's embarrassing that Paul Mc Hugh is out stating that Tiller was doing late term abortions illegally and not meeting the irreversible maternal health threat criteria and yet nothing was being done about it.

    It's shameful.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    You don't need medical records of all the women to make a reasonable conclusion on whether or not Tiller ran a murder mill.

    The bottom line for me is that people on this forum are calling Tiller a baby murderer, getting that emotional hoorah going. If that was Tiller's game than all the women he performed late term abortions for were in on it. That's hardly likely. It makes no sense and it's not a reasonable conclusion.


    I don't believe for one minute that all of the abortions he performed were inappropriate. However, I am highly suspicious of someone who tries that hard to hide something. In this case, he and his buddies were hiding the reasons for killing babies in utero. That's disturbing on any level. I don't think some oversight is too much to ask for and their intent to block that oversight is suspect at best, criminal at worst.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Paul Mc Hugh didn't go on a crusade. He was shocked by what he saw when asked to investigate and he wanted that shock and what he saw to be aired publicly. Hardly a crusade. Of course they want him to stop. It's embarrassing that Paul Mc Hugh is out stating that Tiller was doing late term abortions illegally and not meeting the irreversible maternal health threat criteria and yet nothing was being done about it.

    It's shameful.
    Also potentially illegal if you read the source.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Also potentially illegal if you read the source.
    Empty threats. Dr. McHugh never named names of women. He violated no HIPPA laws. Furthermore they didn't want his testimony in court. Didn't even want to have it heard so he was basically dismissed as being part of the case.

    If Dr. McHugh has ever been considered a prolife nutter I've never heard of it.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    You can't be serious.


    This entire thing sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.


    Of course there's a conspiracy.

    A conspiracy to hide the fact that the man reached into cooters with a pair of gripped, baby skull sized forceps and a medieval instrument made to splinter baby skulls and deflate them before extracting the fetus piece by piece from the uterus. I cannot fathom the type of sickness that brings a man to do that for a living and anyone who has the stomach for it should be subject to oversight when he does need to perform the action for medically necessary reasons. And that oversight should be enforced with a strong amount of skepticism and advocacy for the baby inside who can't speak for itself.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Empty threats. Dr. McHugh never named names of women. He violated no HIPPA laws. Furthermore they didn't want his testimony in court. Didn't even want to have it heard so he was basically dismissed as being part of the case.

    If Dr. McHugh has ever been considered a prolife nutter I've never heard of it.

    I have not found any such reference to him being a "nutter", and I did look.

    I don't know so much about embarrassing, but according to his cease and desist order, it does appear that it is highly likely he was possibly breaking HIPPA. The Kansas Supreme Court specifically ordered "all parties to resist any impulse to further publicize their respective legal positions..."(source already linked).

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Empty threats. Dr. McHugh never named names of women. He violated no HIPPA laws. Furthermore they didn't want his testimony in court. Didn't even want to have it heard so he was basically dismissed as being part of the case.

    If Dr. McHugh has ever been considered a prolife nutter I've never heard of it.
    And just how the hell did you and I end up on the same side of an abortion debate?

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And just how the hell did you and I end up on the same side of an abortion debate?
    Because in this case you both ended up being wrong?

    Smiley included to ensure you know I am joking...
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