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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    I don't think so as the error doesn't change the story much in my opinion. I'm not about lying about stuff that is easily proven one way or another by most anyone on the web who knows how to google. I don't have the entire Tiller case with all names involved all up in my head 24/7. If I make a mistake call me on it and I'll say, "Yeah, you're right. " It's not like my having the wrong name of who exactly got fired changes the point that a guy was fired to bring in a friendlier more pro-Tiller state prosecutor.

    So think what you want about my credibility. It's certainly more interesting than the "See no evil, hear no evil, " approach most take on the Tiller fiasco.
    thank you I will

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    The prosecution of Tiller was done in an attempt to stop him from performing any abortions, not just to stop late-term abortions. He was attacked by a rabid anti-abortion zealot, Phil Kline, who lost his bid for re-election. Even conservative Kansasans had enough of Phil Kline.


    Phil Kline fundraises with a 5-page mailer citing Dr. Tiller | Crooks and Liars

    KCTV5 exposed Phil Kline for being a typical conservative crook in a the above video clip, and C&L had a hand in exposing it to the media in KS.
    Logan Murphy wrote this back on 11/28/07:

    Kansas City CBS affiliate KCTV5 conducted a 6 month investigation of Phil Kline, the religious zealot and rabid anti-abortion District Attorney of Johnson County, Kansas that has now caught fire on blogs nationwide, earning C&L a nod for our coverage. The investigation uncovered some dirty secrets about Kline's true residency and his apparent lack of work ethics -- and now he's running for cover...read on...

    Thousands of Kansans opened their mailboxes Thursday to find a solicitation letter from former Attorney General Phill Kline that invokes physician George Tiller and Planned Parenthood while seeking contributions for a campaign against abortion rights.

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    Kline, who filed criminal charges against Tiller while serving as attorney general, targeted the solicitation at former political supporters. He is trying to eliminate $200,000 in personal legal debt that piled up during the past six years. The letter also says cash was needed by Life Issues Institute, an anti-abortion organization in Cincinnati affiliated with Kline, to “launch more aggressive battles on the national front.”
    The only way to be an abortion extremist is to kill an abortion doctor. There is nothing extremist about being very opposed to abortion.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    Was Kline the guy that was fired so that a different attorney (more favorable towards Tiller, as Talloulou put it) could be brought in?

    No, that guy was Don McKinney (possibly spelled wrong. just pointing out there may be a spelling error in my memory so winston doesn't berate me for it later. )

    Kline lost an election for DA. An election that Tiller put tons and tons of money into. The guy who won, beat Kline, was named Morrison I think (again possibly a spelling area or maybe his name was Morrisey. I can't do all your googling for ya. )

    Anyway Tiller put tons and tons of money into the DA race, it became a prochoice vs prolife fiasco.

    Morrison won, fired McKinney and brought in a new prosecutor.

    What's even crazier is later Morrison has issues due to an affair and he quits.

    Kansas has worse politics than Chicago.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    And where is your proof that this threat did not exist ?

    ( further, I do not understand why you quoted my town hall passage which is a hypothetical, or thought experiment, and then posted on comment on existant law )
    Because it's largely irrelevant to this particular thread.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    And where is your proof that this threat did not exist ?
    The governor vetoed such questions. They are essentially un-askable.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    The only way to be an abortion extremist is to kill an abortion doctor. There is nothing extremist about being very opposed to abortion.
    Anyone who is opposed to abortion for any reason, including saving the life of the pregnant woman, is an extremist.
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    The Tiller murder was like a breath of fresh air.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    What's that? Someone trying to shove a baby down a toilet?

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    No, that guy was Don McKinney (possibly spelled wrong. just pointing out there may be a spelling error in my memory so winston doesn't berate me for it later. )

    Kline lost an election for DA. An election that Tiller put tons and tons of money into. The guy who won, beat Kline, was named Morrison I think (again possibly a spelling area or maybe his name was Morrisey. I can't do all your googling for ya. )

    Anyway Tiller put tons and tons of money into the DA race, it became a prochoice vs prolife fiasco.

    Morrison won, fired McKinney and brought in a new prosecutor.

    What's even crazier is later Morrison has issues due to an affair and he quits.

    Kansas has worse politics than Chicago.

    Were any of Tiller's financial contributions illegal?

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    Arrow Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Location on either side of an inches long canal is not a deciding factor on whether a human being has its basic human rights protected. The courts disagree with you already.
    That is not the only difference, and we have been over the fact already.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I'm not even going to address this ridiculous attempt to obfuscate.
    It is not obfuscation. It is me, destroying your fallacious appeal to universality.

    You want the "cache" of the word life, without paying attention to the totality of that word's meaning. I eat life everyday.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Killing babies.
    Got any proof ? Did he do this after his shift as an abortion provider ?

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I don't care whether you agree with me or not. It is what it is.
    Very, very false. You think it is what you think it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I have no intent to use force on you at all. However, I have absolutely no issue with detaining your wife in a medical lockup until she delivers.
    Do you think I would allow this ? you are being duplicitous if you think that gets you out of anything. I will defend my wife's liberty, and we are right back to you using force on me, and my wife.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    If a late term abortion is performed without medical cause, I have no issue with levying the harshest criminal penalties against all parties just like with any other first degree murder.
    If you are rational enough to now to use the term "late term abortion" perhaps you are rational enough to realize that all are performed with cause.

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