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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Wasn't Tiller acquitted by a jury in a criminal trial? Are you suggesting jury tampering?
    Many of the charges against him were in fact dropped as the prosecutor in charge of his case was fired and a new guy brought in.

    The question of whether Tiller was performing abortions that failed to meet the state criteria of an irreversible maternal health risk was never actually addressed in court.

    It's actually the only unfortunate part of his being shot down. He was due back in court and I believe eventually they would have nailed him no matter how many friends in high places were willing to do gymnastics for him.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Many of the charges against him were in fact dropped as the prosecutor in charge of his case was fired and a new guy brought in.

    The question of whether Tiller was performing abortions that failed to meet the state criteria of an irreversible maternal health risk was never actually addressed in court.

    It's actually the only unfortunate part of his being shot down. He was due back in court and I believe eventually they would have nailed him no matter how many friends in high places were willing to do gymnastics for him.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    Tall, I don't know how I can be any clearer. The accusations around Tiller are that he was killing perfectly healthy, sound, viable babies at some outrageous rate a year......

    Where is your proof that these babies were healthy, sound and viable or that the mother's life wasn't endangered. Don't you think it's a little bit odd that Tiller and all of these women, who had late term abortions, were just out to kill these healthy and viable babies?

    Does that really sound reasonable to you?

    Again, a dr. was hired by the state to review the records. That dr. is on record claiming Tiller was not following Kansas law. The prosecutor was fired and the drs. testimony never brought to court.

    His testimony was never replaced. It's not as if they said, "That dr. is a flake and we don't trust him so instead of using his testimony we are going to have the records reviewed by someone else."

    No. Rather than deny that Tiller's records showed what the reviewing Dr. said they showed the governor declared, "Quit looking at Tiller's records. They don't matter. He doesn't need reasons. "

    Does that sound reasonable to you???

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    Yes there are, unfortunately. That doesn't make your case though.

    You can't point to the few to base your claim that Tiller was only performing late term abortions AND that women sought him out for late term abortions for the thrill of it all
    Exactly. I can't seem to fathom why a woman would carry a baby for 7 months and then decide out of the blue that they want to get rid of it. It just doesn't make sense, unless there were health factors at play.
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Holy smoke!
    What, I don't give a crap that someone took that freak out. I've said so repeatedly.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Thought about putting this in a new thread, but I suppose there's no real point in putting two threads about basically the same subject.

    Well, besides complaining about the fact that he's being treated like a criminal and that his jail is cold, the guy is now claiming that there are other attacks planned.

    Suspect in abortion doctor death warns of violence

    WICHITA, Kan. The man charged with murdering a high-profile abortion doctor claimed from his jail cell Sunday that similar violence was planned around the nation for as long as the procedure remained legal, a threat that comes days after a federal investigation launched into his possible accomplices.

    A Justice Department spokesman said the threat was being taken seriously and additional protection had been ordered for abortion clinics last week. But a leader of the anti-abortion movement derided the accused shooter as "a fruit and a lunatic."

    Scott Roeder called The Associated Press from the Sedgwick County jail, where he's being held on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated assault in the shooting of Dr. George Tiller one week ago.

    "I know there are many other similar events planned around the country as long as abortion remains legal," Roeder said. He would not elaborate.
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Many of the charges against him were in fact dropped as the prosecutor in charge of his case was fired and a new guy brought in.

    The question of whether Tiller was performing abortions that failed to meet the state criteria of an irreversible maternal health risk was never actually addressed in court.

    It's actually the only unfortunate part of his being shot down. He was due back in court and I believe eventually they would have nailed him no matter how many friends in high places were willing to do gymnastics for him.
    Jurors Acquit Kansas Doctor in a Late-Term Abortion Case

    Published: March 27, 2009

    WICHITA, Kan. After years of investigations and four days of testimony, jurors here took just 45 minutes on Friday to acquit a controversial abortion doctor of charges that he performed 19 illegal late-term abortions in 2003.

    --snip--

    Dr. Tiller could have faced a year in jail and a $2,500 fine on each of 19 counts.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/28/us...tion.html?_r=1

    What were you saying about charges "dropped?"

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by missypea View Post
    Tall, I don't know how I can be any clearer. The accusations around Tiller are that he was killing perfectly healthy, sound, viable babies at some outrageous rate a year......

    Where is your proof that these babies were healthy, sound and viable or that the mother's life wasn't endangered. Don't you think it's a little bit odd that Tiller and all of these women, who had late term abortions, were just out to kill these healthy and viable babies?

    Does that really sound reasonable to you?
    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    Again, a dr. was hired by the state to review the records. That dr. is on record claiming Tiller was not following Kansas law. The prosecutor was fired and the drs. testimony never brought to court.

    His testimony was never replaced. It's not as if they said, "That dr. is a flake and we don't trust him so instead of using his testimony we are going to have the records reviewed by someone else."

    No. Rather than deny that Tiller's records showed what the reviewing Dr. said they showed the governor declared, "Quit looking at Tiller's records. They don't matter. He doesn't need reasons. "

    Does that sound reasonable to you???


    Is that a yes or a no?



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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    What, I don't give a crap that someone took that freak out. I've said so repeatedly.
    Do you consider yourself "pro-life?" If so, how do you reconcile that with your feelings about Tiller's assassination?

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    What, I don't give a crap that someone took that freak out. I've said so repeatedly.
    unfortunately that seem to be the nature of the beast that is the extremists, within the pro-life bowel movement

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