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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    I'm sticking with what I said in an earlier thread.

    One scumbag killed another scumbag. One dead, one in prison: net gain to society.

    I don't support the actions of either man. One man performed acts which I consider not only immoral, but horrifically barbaric (partial-birth abortions). The other broke the law and committed premeditated murder without any sort of legal justification, and apparently is mentally ill besides.

    As Wessex said, the fact that Tiller's late-term abortions were maybe, just barely legal, does not make him a hero or even a moral man. How someone performs partial birth abortions on viable babies and sleeps at night is beyond my imagination.


    To me it isn't much different than when a Blood offs a Crip and goes to jail...two scumbags off the streets.


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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    As Wessex said, the fact that Tiller's late-term abortions were maybe, just barely legal, does not make him a hero or even a moral man.
    I don't know who is calling him a hero or a moral man, but how does the fact he was not any of those justify someone killing him?

    I know plenty of people that are not considered heroes or moral people, but that doesn't mean they deserved to be killed because of it.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I don't know who is calling him a hero or a moral man, but how does the fact he was not any of those justify someone killing him?

    I know plenty of people that are not considered heroes or moral people, but that doesn't mean they deserved to be killed because of it.

    To quote a Clint Eastwood movie, "The Unforgiven"...

    Kid: "Well, I guess they had it comin'."
    Clint: "Kid, we've all got it comin'."
    __________

    Sheriff: "I don't deserve this."
    Clint, about to shoot him: "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."


    Tell ya what... if I'd been there in that church, packing a gun as usual; and I knew who Tiller was, and I saw that man pull a gun and aim at his back.... I probably would have stopped it if possible.
    (Oh, wait, most states prohibit carry in churches, so I'd be disarmed and unlikely to be able to respond effectively in time. )

    Why? Because it was murder, and I don't condone murder: whether the perps unlawful murder of Tiller, or Tiller's under-color-of-law murder of viable babies. Everybody's got it coming, but some deserve it more than others.

    IMHO, both these men are deserving of what they got, or are likely to get.

    If I had my preference? If I had a magic wand I could wave and change what happened according to my wish? I'd wish the perp didn't murder Tiller, but that Tiller had a change of heart, quit doing what he was doing, and became a pro-life advocate.

    We rarely get what we wish, don't we.


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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by talloulou View Post
    lolz.

    I do agree with him though. There was lots of government corruption protecting Tiller from the law.

    What? Roe v. Wade was in tact. it is still legal to provide abortions. And he was drug into court 19 times and acquitted all times.

    There was no government corruption protecting this man. This doctor was abiding by the law. The religious zealots are the wing nuts who committed murder here.
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    To quote a Clint Eastwood movie, "The Unforgiven"...

    Kid: "Well, I guess they had it comin'."
    Clint: "Kid, we've all got it comin'."
    __________

    Sheriff: "I don't deserve this."
    Clint, about to shoot him: "Deserve's got nothing to do with it."


    Tell ya what... if I'd been there in that church, packing a gun as usual; and I knew who Tiller was, and I saw that man pull a gun and aim at his back.... I probably would have stopped it if possible.
    (Oh, wait, most states prohibit carry in churches, so I'd be disarmed and unlikely to be able to respond effectively in time. )

    Why? Because it was murder, and I don't condone murder: whether the perps unlawful murder of Tiller, or Tiller's under-color-of-law murder of viable babies. Everybody's got it coming, but some deserve it more than others.

    IMHO, both these men are deserving of what they got, or are likely to get.

    If I had my preference? If I had a magic wand I could wave and change what happened according to my wish? I'd wish the perp didn't murder Tiller, but that Tiller had a change of heart, quit doing what he was doing, and became a pro-life advocate.

    We rarely get what we wish, don't we.


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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I don't know who is calling him a hero or a moral man, but how does the fact he was not any of those justify someone killing him?

    I know plenty of people that are not considered heroes or moral people, but that doesn't mean they deserved to be killed because of it.
    May you have 15,000 unwanted pregnancies in your next life...and have all the men who raped you leave you stranded to live in poverty.

    Of course he was a moral man. He was following the law and providing a service to the women who sought him out.

    In YOUR mind he's immoral. But then, not ALL believe in your war-mongering God, either.
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm sticking with what I said in an earlier thread.

    One scumbag killed another scumbag. One dead, one in prison: net gain to society.

    To people trying to justify Tiller's murder:

    You all are caught up in the anti-abortion propaganda about Tiller. But whenever we bring up the many, many severe medical issues that can confront women or underage girls, you all say... "I guess, I could understand that scenario, or that awful situation..."

    But then a day later you're right back at it: "Tiller had it coming."

    If you don't no shinola about the complicated medical issues a woman faces, the stop talking like you do.

    If you've never had a child, get off this and every abortion thread because in my opinion your opinion is meaningless.

    Again, I ask: how many pro-lifers have adopted a child? How many of you are foster parents? I've done both. Put down your asinine "baby killer" signs and do something with your lives instead of crying over a law that is never going to change.

    These abortion threads go on and on... What a waste. I'm taking my daughter to breakfast. Out.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post

    IMHO, both these men are deserving of what they got, or are likely to get.

    G.

    Tiller deserved to be murdered in cold blood for providing a service that is legal just because you somehow disapprove of it? I know this is hard for you guys, but there is no proof, no real strong evidence even, that Tiller did anything other than provide a needed service to women who had problems with their pregnancy. Far too many of you are willing to say a guy deserved to die based on hearsay.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    To people trying to justify Tiller's murder:

    You all are caught up in the anti-abortion propaganda about Tiller. But whenever we bring up the many, many severe medical issues that can confront women or underage girls, you all say... "I guess, I could understand that scenario, or that awful situation..."

    But then a day later you're right back at it: "Tiller had it coming."

    If you don't no shinola about the complicated medical issues a woman faces, the stop talking like you do.

    If you've never had a child, get off this and every abortion thread because in my opinion your opinion is meaningless.

    Again, I ask: how many pro-lifers have adopted a child? How many of you are foster parents? I've done both. Put down your asinine "baby killer" signs and do something with your lives instead of crying over a law that is never going to change.

    These abortion threads go on and on... What a waste. I'm taking my daughter to breakfast. Out.
    I'm a single parent. Abortion was potentially an option when I found out she was pregnant; I chose life. I've spent the past 13 years parenting a child with dyslexia, 11 of them by myself. I think maybe I have some standing to speak.

    I've love to adopt a child or two. In America, the legal costs are all but prohibitive unless you're quite well-heeled.

    My life is quite busy with lots of important things, thank you. Keep your snide superiority to yourself please.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercer View Post
    May you have 15,000 unwanted pregnancies in your next life...and have all the men who raped you leave you stranded to live in poverty.

    Of course he was a moral man. He was following the law and providing a service to the women who sought him out.

    In YOUR mind he's immoral. But then, not ALL believe in your war-mongering God, either.

    At last, an unbiased opinion. (/irony)

    BTW If I'm not mistaken, TNE is relatively pro-choice, I think you misunderstood the context of his comment.

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