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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The anti-late term abortion statutes of the state.



    Right, just as William Charles Ayres was not convicted due to prosecutorial misconduct (a technicality, fyi).

    I can't link you directly to it per forum rules, but talloulou leads the argument in the old Tiller thread around page 50.

    I was part of that discussion, and she did not prove or even offer strong evidence.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I was part of that discussion, and she did not prove or even offer strong evidence.
    I'm sorry you feel that way, but fact is they both got away with crime due to technicalities.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm sorry you feel that way, but fact is they both got away with crime due to technicalities.
    You should learn the difference between the words "fact" and "opinion" and "accusation". Meanings of words are important.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm sorry you feel that way, but fact is they both got away with crime due to technicalities.
    Can you please cite which Kansas law(s) Tiller was violating?

    As far as I know, his abortion procedure was not outlawed.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    You know, it kind of cracks me up watching people split hairs on Tiller's killer. Some say that he killed a killer. OK, assuming that is true, what about the 2 innocent people at the church who he assaulted? They had absolutely nothing to do with Tiller, but he assaulted them anyway, didn't he?

    The guy is a wacko. Period. Let's put him on trial, and THEN give him the death penalty. He should be OK with it. After all, if it is OK with him to deal out "an execution" to Tiller for murders he believes the man committed, then he should have no problem with others executing him for committing murder either. In fact, I think, as the needle is being put in his arm, he should shake the hand of the executioner and say "Thank you".
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    Can you please cite which Kansas law(s) Tiller was violating?

    As far as I know, his abortion procedure was not outlawed.
    The abortion of fetuses when the mother's life was not in danger or the fetus did not have a critical problem. Of course he was found not-guilty on all charges but that is just because the legal system is corrupt and he was sneaky about it.

    Abortionist Tiller Likely to Escape Late Term Abortion Charges
    The citizen-called grand jury that investigated late-term abortionist George R. Tiller was dismissed today without issuing an indictment.

    Pro-life groups led a petition drive that resulted in the convening of the grand jury in January to investigate if Tiller's late-term abortion business violated the Kansas ban on post-viability abortions at 22 weeks gestation or later.

    In the statement released by the Sedgwick County District Attorney's Office, the jury found that, "After six months of conducting an investigation that included hearing extensive witness testimony, reviewing volumes of documents and medical records of patients of Women's Health Care Services (Tiller's clinic), this Grand Jury has not found sufficient evidence to bring an indictment on any crime related to the abortion laws."

    ...

    Newman alluded to his belief that Tiller's close relationship with Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius, bribery, and other corrupt practices are some of the reasons why the abortionist has not yet been brought to justice.

    "Once again, we are suspicious that corrupt influences in the government, which have been influenced by Tiller's large financial involvement in Kansas politics, may have thwarted justice once again."


    ...

    Furthermore, the Office of the District Attorney 's statement reads: "We doubt that any investigation into the practices and procedures of Dr. Tiller and the Women's Health Care Services will yield an outcome that will provide any basis for indictment."

    Yet, Newman was adamant that OR will continue the fight.

    "We will not stop seeking justice for the innocent victims of Tiller's late-term barbaric practice, and will continue to exercise every legal avenue to stop the shedding of innocent blood and bring Tiller to justice," he concluded.
    Tiller HAS to be a bad person, despite the fact that he didn't write or make the laws and is compliant with them, because if he wasn't then I can't justify my feelings of happiness for his death.
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    I don't see how a court ruling in his favor makes the system corrupt, unless you can prove that the judge or jury members were paid off or something. Otherwise, all I see is that you simply disagree with what the courts have to say.

    People throw the words "corruption" and "judical activism" around way too much.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I don't see how a court ruling in his favor makes the system corrupt, unless you can prove that the judge or jury members were paid off or something. Otherwise, all I see is that you simply disagree with what the courts have to say.

    People throw the words "corruption" and "judical activism" around way too much.
    Orius:

    Sarcasm:
    Main Entry:
    sar·casm Listen to the pronunciation of sarcasm
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:
    French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
    Date:
    1550

    1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm

    Scourge bolded sentences of the article to show that the accusers of Tiller were arguing he was wrong because they didn't like him. No evidence, just speculation which is really nothing more than a cover for dislike.

    Also, his last sentence was dripping with sarcasm.
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Orius:

    Sarcasm:
    Main Entry:
    sar·casm Listen to the pronunciation of sarcasm
    Pronunciation:
    \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\
    Function:
    noun
    Etymology:
    French or Late Latin; French sarcasme, from Late Latin sarcasmos, from Greek sarkasmos, from sarkazein to tear flesh, bite the lips in rage, sneer, from sark-, sarx flesh; probably akin to Avestan thwarəs- to cut
    Date:
    1550

    1: a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain2 a: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language that is usually directed against an individual b: the use or language of sarcasm

    Scourge bolded sentences of the article to show that the accusers of Tiller were arguing he was wrong because they didn't like him. No evidence, just speculation which is really nothing more than a cover for dislike.

    Also, his last sentence was dripping with sarcasm.
    I wasn't responding to scourge. I was speaking in general. Note that I didn't quote him. Scourge replied to a request that was targetted at Jerry. I'm still waiting for Jerry's reply, if he ever does.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Orius View Post
    I wasn't responding to scourge. I was speaking in general. Note that I didn't quote him. Scourge replied to a request that was targetted at Jerry. I'm still waiting for Jerry's reply, if he ever does.
    Oh sorry. It did appear you were applying to Scourge. Especially since he replied to you and you replied after him. My apologies. Sarcasm often doesn't go as planned over the internet.
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