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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Sure thing.

    It appears that Tiller was a sly criminal. He got away with it because he knew how to manipulate the system and he found a couple loop holes.

    What the epic of Tiller tells Pro-Life is that it's not enough to allow late term abortion simple with a second doctor's opinion. The rules need to be much stricter, and Tiller has helped Pro-Life refine future legislation.
    So what you are saying is that Tiller was innocent. Thank you. See, there is this thing here in the US called laws. If you can't get a conviction on some one, they are, surprise, not guilty, and therefore not a criminal.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So what you are saying is that Tiller was innocent. Thank you. See, there is this thing here in the US called laws. If you can't get a conviction on some one, they are, surprise, not guilty, and therefore not a criminal.
    As innocent as murderers who get off on a technicalities, yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    It is truly fascinating to watch people wail and gnash their teeth thinking I would not make the same remark in public.
    Its funny that folks were talking about where and when they censor themselves, because I was thinking the same thing. I am a very intelligent man with a quick wit and a broad education, and I have censored myself too. I have allowed people to use this false baby murderer rhetoric, in public discourse, in a room I am in, but no longer.

    After what happened Sunday May 31st, I will not tolerate it in a room I am in.

    I am going to take that intelligence, and I am going to verbally crucify anyone mouthing ANYTHING about putting pro-life into law, in such a vicious and personal way that if they are not driven from the field of discussion, they will be driven from the room in tears. I am done tolerating anyone saying this in my presence, as it is an advocation of denying me my religious liberty. If you want to be pro-life , you can be, for yourself and yours, but if you mention voting it, then that is taking away my right to decide for myself, and you can prepare to reap the browbeating whirlwind from a well educated genius.
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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So what you are saying is that Tiller was innocent. Thank you. See, there is this thing here in the US called laws. If you can't get a conviction on some one, they are, surprise, not guilty, and therefore not a criminal.
    From all that I have read, the most generous thing that can said about Tiller was that he was not convicted, while the most probable thing that can be said was that he was about to be.

    However, none can say Tiller was innocent. The standard of the law is presumption of innocence until a guilty verdict is rendered. There is a wide gulf between that and asserting a man is innocent.

    Hell, I stopped claiming to be innocent myself ages ago. (for some reason, no one ever believes me).

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Its funny that folks were talking about where and when they censor themselves, because I was thinking the same thing. I am a very intelligent man with a quick wit and a broad education, and I have censored myself too. I have allowed people to use this false baby murderer rhetoric, in public discourse, in a room I am in, but no longer.

    After what happened Sunday May 31st, I will not tolerate it in a room I am in.

    I am going to take that intelligence, and I am going to verbally crucify anyone mouthing ANYTHING about putting pro-life into law, in such a vicious and personal way that if they are not driven from the field of discussion, they will be driven from the room in tears. I am done tolerating anyone saying this in my presence, as it is an advocation of denying me my religious liberty. If you want to be pro-life , you can be, for yourself and yours, but if you mention voting it, then that is taking away my right to decide for myself, and you can prepare to reap the browbeating whirlwind from a well educated genius.
    Why am I suddenly inspired to launch a petition drive to outlaw all abortions anywhere as murdering unborn children?

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    As innocent as murderers who get off on a technicalities, yes.
    Prove it. If you are going to call him a murderer, prove it or admit you are smearing the man.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Prove it. If you are going to call him a murderer, prove it or admit you are smearing the man.
    Prove what? That he got away with it? You've got to be ****ing kidding me

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    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Why am I suddenly inspired to launch a petition drive to outlaw all abortions anywhere as murdering unborn children?
    Probably ONLY because you will never be in my presence, with someone you don't want to be humiliated in front of.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Voidwar View Post
    Probably ONLY because you will never be in my presence, with someone you don't want to be humiliated in front of.
    Yeah, I'm sure that's it. Especially with my low self esteem and fragile ego, I really have to watch out for such things.

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    Re: Man accused of killing abortion doc says he's being 'treated like a criminal'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Prove what? That he got away with it? You've got to be ****ing kidding me
    We are still talking about Tiller, right?

    Because, as he's dead, I'm not sure anyone could argue he "got away with it"....at least not in the final analysis.

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