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    Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    Some 52 percent of people say torture can be at least sometimes justified to obtain information about terrorist activities from suspects, an increase from 38 percent in 2005 when the AP last asked the question. More than two-thirds of Republicans say torture can be justified compared with just over a third of Democrats.

    On Obama's plan to close Guantanamo, 47 percent approve, while 47 percent disapprove. Most Republicans disapprove, while most Democrats approve. Independents are evenly divided.

    Despite the president's safety assurances, more than half of Americans say they would be worried about the chance of terrorism suspects escaping from U.S. high-security prisons. Yet again, more Republicans express concern than Democrats. Still, the figures indicate that the GOP-fueled fear may be resonating.
    The Associated Press: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    Seems Cheney and Limbaugh have been able to move some from the Cult of Obama.
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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    The nice thing about a truth commission it that it will air this out and clear things up so America can move forward...not backwards as Cheney would love us to do.

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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    If we gained all the intel we could then there is really no more use for the detained.


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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    If we gained all the intel we could then there is really no more use for the detained.
    So what do you do with the bomb-throwing lunatics? Given the number of released detainees who've gone back to practicing their hobby of blowing innocent women and children into tiny bits, just letting them go sounds like a really really REALLY bad idea.

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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    So what do you do with the bomb-throwing lunatics? Given the number of released detainees who've gone back to practicing their hobby of blowing innocent women and children into tiny bits, just letting them go sounds like a really really REALLY bad idea.
    What should have been done with them in the first place on the Battle Field,

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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    So what do you do with the bomb-throwing lunatics? Given the number of released detainees who've gone back to practicing their hobby of blowing innocent women and children into tiny bits, just letting them go sounds like a really really REALLY bad idea.
    ummm yeah by no more use, I meant Scarface type no more use.


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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    If we gained all the intel we could then there is really no more use for the detained.
    Didn't Dr Evil have a button at his meeting table just for these types of circumstances?
    Each one of the founding fathers was a special interest group.

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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    It really doesn't matter if the majority of the population believes in torture....over 50% of Germans voted for Nazis, knowing they wanted to get rid of the Jews. Torture does not work, unless you just want false confessions for some reason.

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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It really doesn't matter if the majority of the population believes in torture....over 50% of Germans voted for Nazis, knowing they wanted to get rid of the Jews. Torture does not work, unless you just want false confessions for some reason.
    It doesn't work?

    Waterboarding has worked, but alas... is not torture.

    AG Holder admitted this during basic questioning. According to AG Coward, waterboarding is not torture as used by the US against terrorists because there is no intent to inflict permanent harm or to use it as retribution/vengeance.

    This is clear as only three terrorists were waterboarded, and from this focused exercise we acquired valuable intel that prevented future attacks.

    It's why our troops can be waterboarded as part of their training.

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    Re: Poll: US divided over torture, closing Guantanamo

    Quote Originally Posted by WillRockwell View Post
    It really doesn't matter if the majority of the population believes in torture....over 50% of Germans voted for Nazis, knowing they wanted to get rid of the Jews. Torture does not work, unless you just want false confessions for some reason.
    Why false confession? If the subject has the information they will disclose it, if they dont know and make it up then you should always have secondary sources.


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