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UK and Netherlands vote in EU election

Heard some rumors about the far-right gaining power in Europe.
Is there any truth to this?
 
Heard some rumors about the far-right gaining power in Europe.
Is there any truth to this?

It is worrying which is the reason I have voted for the first time in these elections. We won't know the English results till Sunday I think.
 
Question Alexa wouldn't you rather be a Nation appond yourself instead of the United States of Europe.
 
Question Alexa wouldn't you rather be a Nation appond yourself instead of the United States of Europe.

It would really depend on how Europe went.
 
It would really depend on how Europe went.

Hmmm I guess you aren't old enough to recall when your country had it's own Money and didn't have to get the rest of "Europe's" permission to do something to bad.
 
Heard some rumors about the far-right gaining power in Europe.
Is there any truth to this?

They,re likely to gain a number of seats but its unfeisable that they,d get a majoirity. Even if they did then they wouldnt be "in power" as we,re voting for the legislature [and a comparatively weak legislature at that] not the executive.
 
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Hmmm I guess you aren't old enough to recall when your country had it's own Money and didn't have to get the rest of "Europe's" permission to do something to bad.

LOL are you just here to bait? You obviously are not very clued up on things anyway. Britain still has its own money. It does not use the Euro.

I myself was an adult when we changed from pounds, shillings and pence to decimal money. Now do you know when that was?

But really it is a waste of time just to be here to bait. If you have something to say, just say what your point is.
 
They,re likley to gain a number of seats but its unfeisable that they,d get a majoirity. Even if they did then they wouldnt be "in power" as we,re voting for the legislature [and a comparatively weak legislature at that] not the executive.

I just don't like them having any seats.
 
LOL are you just here to bait? You obviously are not very clued up on things anyway. Britain still has its own money. It does not use the Euro.

I myself was an adult when we changed from pounds, shillings and pence to decimal money. Now do you know when that was?

Yes Feb of 1971 my father was Station in Scotland at the time. As for my point simple what has the EU actually have done for Europe or as a matter of fact for England,Scotland,and Wales beside make them all cowtow to some Utupian Idea that will never happen.
 
Heard some rumors about the far-right gaining power in Europe.
Is there any truth to this?

it was bound to happen considering the far-left has been in power for such a long time.
 
it was bound to happen considering the far-left has been in power for such a long time.

Bear in mind that if the european unions consitution were implemented europe would be the only consitutionally capatalist state in the world.
 
Bear in mind that if the european unions consitution were implemented europe would be the only consitutionally capatalist state in the world.
Don't make me laugh, honestly? I suppose France will suddenly ban all unions? please.
 
Don't make me laugh, honestly? I suppose France will suddenly ban all unions? please.

Indeed ,hence why leftist partys campaigned against it when referendums were held. That said I wouldnt claim its a purely free-market orientated project either.
 
Yes Feb of 1971 my father was Station in Scotland at the time. As for my point simple what has the EU actually have done for Europe or as a matter of fact for England,Scotland,and Wales beside make them all cowtow to some Utupian Idea that will never happen.

What Utopian idea is that?

I appreciate the European Court and British people use that a lot.

In most of Europe there is a rule on I think it is a 37 hour week. Here in the UK some people find themselves intimidated into working a 60 hour week. They are waiting for the 37 hour to become law via Europe here.

Europe has seemed to be more socialist than the UK in recent years and that has been appreciated by me. However there are also lots of laws that come in that we know nothing about and just find they are new laws.

As it is in this election I voted for this party, 'No 2 Euro, Yes 2 Democracy', though my vote was primarily to help avoid a BNP member in my area from getting in.

My own feeling is that Europe weakened itself by taking in so many Easter European countries so quickly.

We will almost certainly be having a referendum on the new Bill on the EU which previously we did not have one on. My guess is that the UK is going to move a bit away. We shall see.

Up until recently people knew hardly anything about what the EU did unless they were interested enough to look for themselves. Now people are speaking about it a lot more.
 
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Seems like the far-right party in the Netherlands has became the second biggest party.
Isn't the head of their party that politician who made comments against Islam?
 
Heard some rumors about the far-right gaining power in Europe.
Is there any truth to this?
Not realy gaining power, but legitimizing presence

I was glad to see my Muslim brother out last night urging their community to vote to keep the fascist out
 
Question Alexa wouldn't you rather be a Nation appond yourself instead of the United States of Europe.
Its not my question but if I may, I would like to see a "united states of europe" complete with its own army that includes Turkey
 
Results are on Sunday because that is the offical voting day across Europe. Aka, the rest of Europe votes Sunday.

As for the far right gains. The EU vote has turned in most countries into a protest vote against the sitting government. It has rarely anything to do with the EU it self. That is why parties like the UKIP, BNP and other far right nationalist often racist parties get high numbers.

Personally I think it also reflects how people see the EU parliament. They still think that the EU parliament has no power (aka the parliamen 15 years ago), which is only partly true. While most power in the EU still resides with the member governments, the EU parliament does have its say, especially when it comes to the budget and EU commissioners. But yea it is not a "true" parliament like most countries have.

But in certain countries including my own, the EU vote has turned into a some what farce since every crackpot racist nationalist jackboot comes out of the seems and gets air time. During a national election they would not even get close to the door of the building where the real parties debate in a civilized maner.
 
There is a rise in neo-cons everywhere right now. Even in Canada, our PM is a neo-con evangelist.

Neo-cons are behind regionalism, because they tend to have a neo-liberal policy. They want trade and business to grow under the elites, borders to be reduced to mere symbols, and they tend to have a socially conservative policy because limited rights means easier expansion of their economic plan.

None of this is proceeding democratically, of course. Did Europe even vote on whether or not it wants a regional Parliament? No. You vote on the candidates, which legitimizes the system's very existence.

It might not have a lot of power now but it's just the beginning. Through the network of elites countries will slowly give over their powers to this regional parliament. The same thing is slowly happening in all the populated continents.
 
There is a rise in neo-cons everywhere right now. Even in Canada, our PM is a neo-con evangelist.

Neo-cons are behind regionalism, because they tend to have a neo-liberal policy. They want trade and business to grow under the elites, borders to be reduced to mere symbols, and they tend to have a socially conservative policy because limited rights means easier expansion of their economic plan.

None of this is proceeding democratically, of course. Did Europe even vote on whether or not it wants a regional Parliament? No. You vote on the candidates, which legitimizes the system's very existence.

It might not have a lot of power now but it's just the beginning. Through the network of elites countries will slowly give over their powers to this regional parliament. The same thing is slowly happening in all the populated continents.

Anytime someone creates a central governing authority, it slowly grabs more and more power. Over time the EU will be the central, powerful government and the separate nations will merely be states like the U.S. has.

I never understand why people are so willing to give up their own sovereignty.
There is no logical reason for it.
 
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