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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Anyone else noticed how the crowd was only clapping when Obama spoke in favor of the Palestinians?
    Nobody clapped when he asked them to stop denying the holocaust, stop the terrorism or recognize Israel's right to exist.
    Nobody said the change would be immediate.

    I personally think Muslims or at least the leaders should immediately:
    Stop broadcasting things on Israel in a highly biased and almost anti semetic way [In some cases] as it has the ability of forming peoples opinion on Israel and achieves little.
    Stop teaching in schools to deny the Holocaust or portrayals of US/Israel - Perhaps even start a curriculum on Nakba and with it, the history of Israel.
    Open new media stations which carry a moderate message
    Start condemning terrorism more, Saudis to stop funding the opening of Mosques around the Muslim world [and in some cases the west] with crazy Imams heading it ...

    If we expect US to deliver on being fair, we too must also change ...

    I so wish i was a world leader right now
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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I think both sides have valid POVs
    As do i which is why i am never on one side or the other entirely


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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Nobody said the change would be immediate.

    I personally think Muslims or at least the leaders should immediately:
    Stop broadcasting things on Israel in a highly biased and almost anti semetic way [In some cases] as it has the ability of forming peoples opinion on Israel and achieves little.
    Stop teaching in schools to deny the Holocaust or portrayals of US/Israel - Perhaps even start a curriculum on Nakba and with it, the history of Israel.
    Open new media stations which carry a moderate message
    Start condemning more terrorism more, Saudis to stop funding the opening of Mosques around the Muslim world [and in some cases the west] with crazy Imams heading it ...

    If we expect US to deliver on being fair, we too must also change ...
    But it is not about the leaders, it's about the Muslim people themselves.
    They're the ones who should make the change and stop supporting the hatred. The leaders would follow.
    I so wish i was a world leader right now
    Oh but there are many worlds out there in the universe. You need only to choose.
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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Nobody said the change would be immediate.

    I personally think Muslims or at least the leaders should immediately:
    Stop broadcasting things on Israel in a highly biased and almost anti semetic way [In some cases] as it has the ability of forming peoples opinion on Israel and achieves little.
    Stop teaching in schools to deny the Holocaust or portrayals of US/Israel - Perhaps even start a curriculum on Nakba and with it, the history of Israel.
    Open new media stations which carry a moderate message
    Start condemning terrorism more, Saudis to stop funding the opening of Mosques around the Muslim world [and in some cases the west] with crazy Imams heading it ...

    If we expect US to deliver on being fair, we too must also change ...

    I so wish i was a world leader right now
    If you think this regurgitation of 40 years of empty rhetoric is going to amount to anything . . .
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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    But it is not about the leaders, it's about the Muslim people themselves.
    They're the ones who should make the change and stop supporting the hatred. The leaders would follow.

    Oh but there are many worlds out there in the universe. You need only to choose.
    I have always quite fancied to become supreme ruler

    You'd be surprised the role the media and Imams play.
    If a Imam [and my Imam influences me personally alot. I will take his word sometimes over even my own family] and media is moderate or progressive thinking it will influence the Muslims. Seeing streams of reporting in a highly biased manner helps no one.
    I was in E Africa during the Lebanon war, and for a moderate like me to get angry takes alot and the only media i had access to was arab ones and there was a absolute non stop stream of dead children and civilians. The media plays a big role.
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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If you think this regurgitation of 40 years of empty rhetoric is going to amount to anything . . .
    I think it'll amount to something but maybe that is just me being overly optimistic.
    I hope it leads to something but it takes 2 to tango and both sides need to sit down at the table


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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    If a Imam and media is moderate or progressive thinking it will influence the Muslims.
    So, where are they?
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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    So, where are they?
    They had been pushed to the background as radicalization increased during the Bush admin.


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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    They had been pushed to the background as radicalization increased during the Bush admin.


    Bull-freakin'-hockey.



    Where were they BEFORE?

    Perhaps it's incumbent upon you to go become of them yourself. Are you up for it?
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    Re: Obama seeks to change Muslim perceptions of U.S.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Perhaps it's incumbent upon you to go become of them yourself. Are you up for it?
    Clearly not making their voices heard if you need to ask that.

    Oh i can't become a Imam and lead prayers. Only men.
    I'd love to influence Muslims but i'm not so lucky


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