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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I can count our black members on one hand. I can tell you anecdotely about some of the racist comments I have heard in that church. I'm a member in name only because three generations of my family have been there.
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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Radio host Hal Turner has been taken into custody and arrested for inciting violence after he blogged that Connecticut Catholics need to take up arms against 2 lawmakers and a state ethics official. Here is what Turner posted in his blog:

    My question to everyone is the following: Where does free speech end and hate speech begin? The First Amendment is fine and dandy, but when you advocate killing, you have gone over the line, and your rights to free speech end right there.

    Article is here.
    The thing is, he can directly tell someone to go kill their rep and it's still free speech because he has no reasonable expectation that his wishes will actually be carried out.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Just for the record, I did not want to use the headline tying Hannity to Turner. However, I also had to follow BN guidelines.

    Having said that, let me state that Hannity and Turner were friends for many years. Whether Hannity broke off with Turner because he was afraid it would hurt his career, or whether he did it because of a change of heart, is something that neither you nor I can state with a certainty. At this point, I will take Hannity at his word that he does not now share the same views as Turner.
    I don't believe that Hannity has a racist bone in his body. My guess is that "friendship" was professional, and Hannity must have thought him a useful guest to have on the show. However when this guy went over the top, Hannity was going to support violence and Turner lost credibility as a guest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The thing is, he can directly tell someone to go kill their rep and it's still free speech because he has no reasonable expectation that his wishes will actually be carried out.
    I'm not so certain that's a legally sustainable argument.

    However, you are overlooking the rest of his diatribe, wherein he incorporated himself into the lynch mob:
    "It is our intent to foment direct action against these individuals personally," the blog stated. "These beastly government officials should be made an example of as a warning to others in government: Obey the Constitution or die."

    And, the post continued, "If any state attorney, police department or court thinks they're going to get uppity with us about this; I suspect we have enough bullets to put them down too."
    "Our" and "we" puts the guns and the bullets in his hands as well.

    That's a terroristic threat by any standard. And it's a crime.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    400 years of slavery where? America hasnt been around for 400 years, yet we got 1 poster here claiming America was the only market for slaves.

    So which fictional use of history are going to explore today?
    The trans-atlantic slave trade began in 1441. And no, America wasn't the only market for slaves.

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade"]Atlantic Slave Trade (Wiki)[/ame]

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I'm not so certain that's a legally sustainable argument.

    However, you are overlooking the rest of his diatribe, wherein he incorporated himself into the lynch mob:
    "Our" and "we" puts the guns and the bullets in his hands as well.

    That's a terroristic threat by any standard. And it's a crime.
    Prove it's anything more than venting.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Prove it's anything more than venting.
    The statement is the proof.

    It's specific and detailed. He's not just saying "the ***** should die." He is targeting specific persons and groups of persons with specific modes of violence. Specific threat against specific people is a specific crime.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    The trans-atlantic slave trade began in 1441. And no, America wasn't the only market for slaves.

    Atlantic Slave Trade (Wiki)
    Thanks for clarifying, please show this post to the other poster who seems to think America was the only market for slaves.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The only one with legally enforced slavery and segregation.
    past tense posting in order here? there are still slaves in Africa, enslaved by other blacks....
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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well America created the market for that.
    It wasn't America yet.....
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