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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    We did? I kind of thought Portugal, Spain, etc, etc were all over that one too.

    Or are we gonna go with the public school version of this?
    A lot of hands were dirty. The fact is is the market was here in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Talk about grasping at straws.

    That's a drop in the bucket compared to black slavery in regards to the white culture in this country.
    Why is that grasping at straws?

    Did black Africans not sell their own to foreign countries as slaves? If so, are they not as culpable for slavery as any other person or nation?

    It takes 2 to tango my friend.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    People do go to church for their own spiritual beliefs.

    People go to a specific church because it comports with those spiritual beliefs.

    Would you listen to sermons for 20 years espousing beliefs you rejected? Have you counted as a close spiritual adviser for two decades someone whose beliefs you rejected? If yes, then further discussion is pointless. If no, then your personal history is not germane to the point.
    We are talking about his political and racial beliefs here, not his religious views. Just because I don't agree with someone in those areas doesn't mean that we wouldn't agree on a spiritual level if we had the same religious beliefs. Though, it would really be difficult to gauge as I only went to church for a very short period of time when I was young.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Just for the record, I did not want to use the headline tying Hannity to Turner. However, I also had to follow BN guidelines.

    Having said that, let me state that Hannity and Turner were friends for many years. Whether Hannity broke off with Turner because he was afraid it would hurt his career, or whether he did it because of a change of heart, is something that neither you nor I can state with a certainty. At this point, I will take Hannity at his word that he does not now share the same views as Turner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I'm a member of a Church where Bush is a member as well and the head minister certainly is enamored with Bush. I'm certain most around here would agree that I deeply disagree with Bush's views and consequently disagree with the head ministers POV as well by default.
    There's a bit of a qualitative difference between disagreeing about politics and disagreeing about the propriety of hatred, prejudice, and anger.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Why is that grasping at straws?

    Did black Africans not sell their own to foreign countries as slaves? If so, are they not as culpable for slavery as any other person or nation?

    It takes 2 to tango my friend.
    I'm not saying that they didn't, but to try and use that as a counter balance to 400 years of slavery is a joke.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    A lot of hands were dirty.
    No, no, no that is not what you said. You said specifically that America was the market for this until I brought up that there were plenty of other countries in on it too.

    The fact is is the market was here in America.
    No, the facts are, that there was a market here in America, but we werent the only market, which is what you are trying to imply was the only market, which is false.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    I'm not saying that they didn't, but to try and use that as a counter balance to 400 years of slavery is a joke.
    400 years of slavery where? America hasnt been around for 400 years, yet we got 1 poster here claiming America was the only market for slaves.

    So which fictional use of history are going to explore today?

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    We are talking about his political and racial beliefs here, not his religious views. Just because I don't agree with someone in those areas doesn't mean that we wouldn't agree on a spiritual level if we had the same religious beliefs. Though, it would really be difficult to gauge as I only went to church for a very short period of time when I was young.
    I am of the opinion that there is less separating political, racial, and spiritual beliefs than you suggest. There is a reason the most potent moral voices impacting the political landscape of this country have been members of the clergy.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    There's a bit of a qualitative difference between disagreeing about politics and disagreeing about the propriety of hatred, prejudice, and anger.
    I can count our black members on one hand. I can tell you anecdotely about some of the racist comments I have heard in that church. I'm a member in name only because three generations of my family have been there.

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