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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    The only one with legally enforced slavery and segregation.
    Really? You mean those black Africans who sold black African slaves all over the world werent legally enforcing slavery and segregation?

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    What other reason would he have for sitting in that church listening to that man's views?
    One or two sermons--yeah, I'd agree with you. 20 years? No, that's agreement.
    People go to church for their own spiritual beliefs, not necessarily because they believe what one particular preacher's personal and political views are. I've listened to people I don't agree with plenty of times.

    More instructively, I don't see where Hannity waited to bounce Turner from his show. Dear Leader waited until everyone was calling him on the carpet to throw first his grandmother then Wright under the bus.
    If you want a serious rebuttal to your arguments it would probably help if you cut the Dear Leader crap. I honestly can't take you seriously when you do that.

    If it was the right thing to do, it should have been done right away. If it was not the right thing to do, it should not have been done at all. In matters of right and wrong, delay is damnation.
    I personally don't care when they cut ties with these people and how long it took them. The bottom line is that I think both are cases of opportunist hacks trying to tie someone they don't agree with to something bad. I don't think that they share views with these people in either case.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Really? You mean those black Africans who sold black African slaves all over the world werent legally enforcing slavery and segregation?
    Well America created the market for that.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmmm white people do have a long history of racism though.
    That is only relevant if you are arguing that past racism necessitates future racism, and that the only cure for prejudice is more prejudice.

    If the goal is overcoming all prejudice, your argument of necessity must fail.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by TheHat View Post
    Really? You mean those black Africans who sold black African slaves all over the world werent legally enforcing slavery and segregation?
    Talk about grasping at straws.

    That's a drop in the bucket compared to black slavery in regards to the white culture in this country.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    I am aware of Farakhan calling Judaism a "gutter religion".

    I am aware of Wright's odious polemics against the United States.

    I am not aware of either saying "go forth and kill."

    Turner said "go forth and kill" and then offered to provide the bullets.
    Yeah, there is a huge difference.

    Farakhan and Wright, though terrible and worthless to say what they said, doesnt fit in the same league as what this Turner guy said.

    Had Wright or Farkhan told folks to go forth and take up arms and kill folks, then that would be a different story.

    It may come from the same roots, but 1 is most certainly going into the realm of instigating violence on another human being, as compared to just saying "God damn America" isnt instigating violence on folks.

    This is coming from someone who doesnt like Wright or Farakhan, but the difference b/w what they said and what Turner said are not the same thing.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    People go to church for their own spiritual beliefs, not necessarily because they believe what one particular preacher's personal and political views are. I've listened to people I don't agree with plenty of times.
    I'm a member of a Church where Bush is a member as well and the head minister certainly is enamored with Bush. I'm certain most around here would agree that I deeply disagree with Bush's views and consequently disagree with the head ministers POV as well by default.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Well America created the market for that.
    We did? I kind of thought Portugal, Spain, etc, etc were all over that one too.

    Or are we gonna go with the public school version of this?

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    That is only relevant if you are arguing that past racism necessitates future racism, and that the only cure for prejudice is more prejudice.

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    No that is not what I'm arguing. I'm just poiting out that for an action there is a reaction.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    People go to church for their own spiritual beliefs, not necessarily because they believe what one particular preacher's personal and political views are. I've listened to people I don't agree with plenty of times.
    People do go to church for their own spiritual beliefs.

    People go to a specific church because it comports with those spiritual beliefs.

    Would you listen to sermons for 20 years espousing beliefs you rejected? Have you counted as a close spiritual adviser for two decades someone whose beliefs you rejected? If yes, then further discussion is pointless. If no, then your personal history is not germane to the point.

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