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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    How is inciting violence protected by the 1st Amendment?
    I suggest you read it and then come back and tell me how it's not. Speech is Speech it doesn't matter if this person wrote or made this comment or when American Nazis decide to march or the fine folks from Moveon.org make some of the comments they have what they all have in comman is they are protected by the 1st Adm. and if any of you think not I suggest your living in the wrong Country.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    Sorry but this is protect 1st Adm. and the Cops had no right to arrest him.
    Yeah I think the site gave plenty for probable cause.

    Rather the charge will hold up in court is what I question.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    I suggest you read it and then come back and tell me how it's not. Speech is Speech it doesn't matter if this person wrote or made this comment or when American Nazis decide to march or the fine folks from Moveon.org make some of the comments they have what they all have in comman is they are protected by the 1st Adm. and if any of you think not I suggest your living in the wrong Country.


    Actually I suggest you read it again. If you really think that our freedom of speech rights are unlimited you are seriously kidding yourself.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yeah I think the site gave plenty for probable cause.

    Rather the charge will hold up in court is what I question.
    I read the report and if you are saying that this is acriome then anytime someone makes one of these post they should be arrested no matter of it is the American Nazi Party,Moveon.org ect. etc. it will be throw out of court and if it wa me I would be filing a 1st Adm Violation against the Police.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post


    Actually I suggest you read it again. If you really think that our freedom of speech rights are unlimited you are seriously kidding yourself.
    I have read it three time as a matter of fact and it is protected 1st Adm Speech no discussion.

    Yes I do believe as did our Founding Fathers that Freedom of Speech is just that all speech no matter how we might feel about it is protected. Have you ever read anything by John Adams or Thomas Jefferson and there feelings about Free Speech.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post


    Actually I suggest you read it again. If you really think that our freedom of speech rights are unlimited you are seriously kidding yourself.
    Let me go one step further. Who has the right to do absolutely anything they want? A baby, of course. If he is hungry, he will cry. If his diaper needs changing, he will cry. If he wants a toy that is out of reach, he will throw a tantrum. But that's OK. After all, he is a baby. We give him a break, and accept his behavior, since he doesn't know any better. As a child grows, he realizes that, with rights, come responsibilities. A 13 year old boy is going to be punished if he throws a tantrum, and he knows it too. It is no longer acceptable. By the time he reaches adulthood, he is knowledgeable on many levels as to what rights and responsibilities are.

    The Constitution was written with adults in mind, and our forefathers have ALWAYS stipulated that, to be an American citizen you must not only support the Constitutional rights of others, but be willing to accept responsibility if you say or do something that incites violence, such as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, or stating on the radio or in a blog that such and such persons need to die. That kind of behavior is NOT covered by the first amendment. Only a baby would attempt to claim this kind of inciting violence to others as first amendment rights, because an adult knows the difference between freedom of speech and behavior that incites violence.

    When you advocate taking the life or liberty of another, that is not free speech, but a crime, since you are inciting others to deprive someone else of his or her own Constitutional rights. At this point, there are many who need to accept a little responsibility as adults, and not make excuses as babies.
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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    I read the report and if you are saying that this is a crime...
    I said it gave "probable cause"...do you know what that is?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    ....then anytime someone makes one of these post they should be arrested no matter of it is the American Nazi Party,Moveon.org ect. etc....
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    ...it will be throw out of court....
    That's up to the courts to deal with on a case by case basis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion89 View Post
    and if it wa me I would be filing a 1st Adm Violation against the Police.
    Well, that is your right

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post

    The Constitution was written with adults in mind, and our forefathers have ALWAYS stipulated that, to be an American citizen you must not only support the Constitutional rights of others, but be willing to accept responsibility if you say or do something that incites violence, such as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater, or stating on the radio or in a blog that such and such persons need to die. That kind of behavior is NOT covered by the first amendment. Only a baby would attempt to claim this kind of inciting violence to others as first amendment rights, because an adult knows the difference between freedom of speech and behavior that incites violence.

    When you advocate taking the life or liberty of another, that is not free speech, but a crime, since you are inciting others to deprive someone else of his or her own Constitutional rights. At this point, there are many who need to accept a little responsibility as adults, and not make excuses as babies.
    Wrong Our Founding Father would have spelled that out and since they never did and may I remind you that OUR FOUNDING FATHERS took up arms and made many a fine speech calling for King George and any English Cit. should be Tared and Feather and or killed.

    As for the screaming Fire in the Theater has there really been such a case.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yeah I think the site gave plenty for probable cause.

    Rather the charge will hold up in court is what I question.
    Exactly. If you exercise your free speech rights to advocate criminal activity, it's not unreasonable for the authorities to investigate.

    People who call for harm to come to the president (regardless of who he is) are likely to get a visit from the Secret Service. Are their free speech rights being trampled on? I say no.

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    Re: Conservative radio host popular onetime Hannity guest charged with inciting viole

    Quote Originally Posted by Birdzeye View Post
    Exactly. If you exercise your free speech rights to advocate criminal activity, it's not unreasonable for the authorities to investigate.

    People who call for harm to come to the president (regardless of who he is) are likely to get a visit from the Secret Service. Are their free speech rights being trampled on? I say no.
    Right, because you never had the right to threaten the President to begin with.

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