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Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

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New Hampshire has just become the sixth state to allow same sex marriage. The governor is about to sign it into law.

"If you have no choice as to your sex, male or female; if you have no choice as to your color; if you have no choice as to your sexual orientation; then you have to be protected and given the same opportunity for life, liberty and happiness," Rep. Anthony DiFruscia, R-Windham, said during the hourlong debate.
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Although I might not agree that sexual orientation is always something you have no choice over, I still respect this decision. If gays want to marry, it is none of my damn business. I wish them happiness.

Article is here.
 
Right on!!! Keep knockin 'em down. Only 44 more to go.
 
Something I'm not clear on... if a same sex couple gets married in a pro-GM state, do the other states have to recognize it?
 
Orius said:
Something I'm not clear on... if a same sex couple gets married in a pro-GM state, do the other states have to recognize it?
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They should because of the full faith and credit clause in the Constitution. I foresee it being a big fight.
 
Glad to see progress being made in America. :happy:
 
This makes it the entire northeast now?

alright!
 
Orius said:
Something I'm not clear on... if a same sex couple gets married in a pro-GM state, do the other states have to recognize it?
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I do not believe they have to recognize it. Some states if I remember right are agreeing to recognize it even tho they do not allow the marriages in there state, but not all.
 
danarhea said:
If gays want to marry.
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For a thousand years 2 (or more) hormonally challenged individuals drag their friends and family to a field and pledge their devotion.

What exactly stops them from marrying at any location on the earth?
 
DarkWizard12 said:
This makes it the entire northeast now?

alright!
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That depends on what you are considering northeast? Do you mean all of New England? Rhode Island has not passed it yet. Or if you're expanding beyond N.E. then you've still got New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey to go.
 
Orius said:
Something I'm not clear on... if a same sex couple gets married in a pro-GM state, do the other states have to recognize it?
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Not at this time, but it will definitely hit the courts in the near future. That's inevitable.
 
Orius said:
Something I'm not clear on... if a same sex couple gets married in a pro-GM state, do the other states have to recognize it?
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it's a bit murky of a situation.

Based on how other things currently work, if you are visiting a state, your license may be valid, but the license generally does not transfer if you move to the state and take up residence.
 
jallman said:
Right on!!! Keep knockin 'em down. Only 44 more to go.
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I apologize for the State of California. Hopefully, Olson and Boies know what they're doing and the U.S. Supreme court will help us get it right.

On the upside, we do have 18,000 legally married gay couples here. That's got to count for somethin'.
 
Yet another sign that the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project"]Free State Project[/ame] is already having an effect, with only a few early movers there so far. Good things take time. Expect more "victimless crimes" to be legalized in the short term, and in the long term - can you say American Hong Kong? :cool:
 
Alex Libman said:
Yet another sign that the Free State Project is already having an effect, with only a few early movers there so far. Good things take time. Expect more "victimless crimes" to be legalized in the short term, and in the long term - can you say American Hong Kong? :cool:
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Oh my god...I remember this libertarian trekkie dominatrix witch lady that used to talk about that Free State Project thing.
 
Good stuff. Even if this is how it's going to be, state by state, I may see gay marriage in all 50 states in my lifetime. Or maybe even sooner, as those states with legalized gay marriage will demonstrate that it hasn't resulted in armageddon.
 
jallman said:
Oh my god...I remember this libertarian trekkie dominatrix witch lady that used to talk about that Free State Project thing.
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the only witch lady I recall had a user name consisting of a 4 digit number
 
hazlnut said:
I apologize for the State of California. Hopefully, Olson and Boies know what they're doing and the U.S. Supreme court will help us get it right.

On the upside, we do have 18,000 legally married gay couples here. That's got to count for somethin'.
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It does and my partner and I am in that 18,000 but I want the same right for everyone.

No need to apologize. We know exactly how prop 8 got passed and it was sickening the lengths that our good "christian" neighbors went to in an effort to get their way.:roll:
 
akyron said:
For a thousand years 2 (or more) hormonally challenged individuals drag their friends and family to a field and pledge their devotion.

What exactly stops them from marrying at any location on the earth?
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Public approval - that's what this has always been about.
 
ARealConservative said:
the only witch lady I recall had a user name consisting of a 4 digit number
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This was in real life though. I swear all this chick did was go to star trek events, spank other trekkies, sew leather costumes for her dungeon, pretend to practice witchcraft, and go to the libertarian party meetings at Denny's on Tuesday nights.
 
jallman said:
It does and my partner and I am in that 18,000 but I want the same right for everyone.

No need to apologize. We know exactly how prop 8 got passed and it was sickening the lengths that our good "christian" neighbors went to in an effort to get their way.:roll:
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I had a neighbor that trolled around in the middle of the night on election eve and put up hundreds of the Yellow signs on public streets. I know two gay couples that drive their kids to school on those streets. I called the city to have them taken down and picked up about 20 on my own--I despise litterbugs.

I looked on the Yes on 8 contibutions map and saw that of few of the loving and tolerant housewives in my area somehow came up with $50k on two different occasions to donate to 8. There were also many $10K and $5k donations amid the typical $10.00 and $20.00 contributions.

Gee, where did all that money come from??

Housewives in my area apparently have a homophobic coffee can in the backyard. (that little LDS elves fill up in the middle of the night.)

Anyway, good for you, jallman, all the best. I'm coming up on 13 years this summer.
 
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I am for freedoms and who you marry is personal business.
 
The silenced majority said:
Anything can be (call itself) a Libertarian

Libertarians: Chirping Sectaries
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Yes, libertarianism is a wide-tent movement that includes people who are only slightly more libertarian than the mainstream, as well as principled Minarchists (including Objectivists) and Anarcho-Capitalists like me.

The Free State Project is defined as being for people who "will exert the fullest practical effort toward the creation of a society in which the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property" - so it's not just for radicals.
 
Has anyone noticed that when these matters are settled properly (meaning by the legislatures and not the courts), that there is hardly any controversy?

It is not a coincidence, and should be instructive to any who feel the judiciary is the proper place to address this type of issue.

If gay marriage is to be the law of the states, let the states pass the law the way states are meant to pass law--through their legislatures and not the courts.
 
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