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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If it's non of your business then why did you make this thread?
    There is a huge difference between stating my opinion and actively working to deprive someone of his or her Constitutional rights. And, of course, there was an inference in my post which is hard to miss, although you did. It is none of YOUR damn business either if gays choose to marry.
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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    There is a huge difference between stating my opinion and actively working to deprive someone of his or her Constitutional rights. And, of course, there was an inference in my post which is hard to miss, although you did. It is none of YOUR damn business either if gays choose to marry.
    There I was, minding my own business, oppressing no one, and suddenly you make this thread and pops up on the 'new posts' page.

    You came to me.

    It's my business now, you just made it my business by putting it in my face with this thread, so where shall we begin?
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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    There I was, minding my own business, oppressing no one, and suddenly you make this thread and pops up on the 'new posts' page.

    You came to me.

    It's my business now, you just made it my business by putting it in my face with this thread, so where shall we begin?
    You had a choice. You didn't have to read the thread. yet you did.

    But you do ask where we shall begin, so let me begin by asking you a riddle. Please humor me here, and the reason I am asking this riddle will be made apparent in my next post.

    Why has the Texas Constitution been amended thousands of times, in fact, so many times that there are dozens of thick volumes on only the amendments to the Texas Constitution, yet the United States Constitution has been amended less than 30 times in more than two centuries, and takes up only a few pages?

    I will tie this to the issue before us shortly.
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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I am just curious if any of the states that allow same sex marriage had a drop in tax revenue? I am wondering how many people use it to gain tax breaks.
    What does that matter? How many straight people get married for tax breaks?

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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You had a choice. You didn't have to read the thread. yet you did.
    I thought you supported choice?

    You gave me one, and I made one, but now you want to blast me for the choice I made.

    You sound pretty anti-choice atm, which seems contrary to your opinion on gay-marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    But you do ask where we shall begin, so let me begin by asking you a riddle. Please humor me here, and the reason I am asking this riddle will be made apparent in my next post.

    Why has the Texas Constitution been amended thousands of times, in fact, so many times that there are dozens of thick volumes on only the amendments to the Texas Constitution, yet the United States Constitution has been amended less than 30 times in more than two centuries, and takes up only a few pages?

    I will tie this to the issue before us shortly.
    Sure I'll humor you: I have no idea.

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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    What does that matter? How many straight people get married for tax breaks?
    You misspelled "penalties".

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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Jesus Christ, danarhea, I don't have all evening

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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I thought you supported choice?

    You gave me one, and I made one, but now you want to blast me for the choice I made.

    You sound pretty anti-choice atm, which seems contrary to your opinion on gay-marriage.



    Sure I'll humor you: I have no idea.
    1) All you saw was the breaking news item with no opinion. You didn't have to open the thread to see if there was an opinion and what it might be, but you did. That was your choice. I did not put a gun to your head and make you click the link. Then you accuse me of shoving it down your throat. When I bring up the fact that you didn't have to click the link if you didn't want to, you then accuse me of blasting you for clicking the link. Looks to me like you are attempting to start a flame war with me, but I am not going to take the bait. YOU WIN.


    2) On the riddle I posed, the difference between the Texas Constitution and the US Constitution is, while all the amendments in the Texas Constitution spell out what government can do, the US Constitution, in its simplistic beauty, has a Bill of Rights that mostly spells out what government can NOT do. And then, in one sweeping statement, it says, in the 10th Amendment, that all rights not expressly given to the government in the Constitution belong to the states.

    In this context, you can not find ANYTHING in the US Constitution that says marriage must be between a man and a woman. Therefore, it is up to each individual state to decide for itself. Thus, if New Hampshire wants to legalize gay marriage, it is not the business of anyone in Mississippi, Virginia, Florida, Texas, etc, and especially not the business of the Federal government (unless an amendment is passed - Good luck with that). As a Texan, I do not have the right to tell people in New Hampshire that they cannot marry whoever they see fit. Feel free to comment on it, as I am also commenting on it. That is your right. But it is none of your business should you attempt to force your belief on New Hampshire in order to get them to change their law. It is THEIR law. Not yours. Not mine. THEIRS.
    One exception - An amendment to the Constitution. Like I said earlier, good luck with that.
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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You misspelled "penalties".
    Yes and no. The marriage tax penalty is not always assured. Furthermore, marriage does provide a great many tax benefits that single does not. For instance, if you die, you can give everything you own to your spouse tax free. I have a professor who joked about being a serial marrier as a way to get rich and to ensure that one never ever pays estate tax in your family.
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    Re: Six: New Hampshire will legalize same sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    2) On the riddle I posed, the difference between the Texas Constitution and the US Constitution is, while all the amendments in the Texas Constitution spell out what government can do, the US Constitution, in its simplistic beauty, has a Bill of Rights that mostly spells out what government can NOT do. And then, in one sweeping statement, it says, in the 10th Amendment, that all rights not expressly given to the government in the Constitution belong to the states.

    In this context, you can not find ANYTHING in the US Constitution that says marriage must be between a man and a woman. Therefore, it is up to each individual state to decide for itself. Thus, if New Hampshire wants to legalize gay marriage, it is not the business of anyone in Mississippi, Virginia, Florida, Texas, etc, and especially not the business of the Federal government (unless an amendment is passed - Good luck with that). As a Texan, I do not have the right to tell people in New Hampshire that they cannot marry whoever they see fit. Feel free to comment on it, as I am also commenting on it. That is your right. But it is none of your business should you attempt to force your belief on New Hampshire in order to get them to change their law. It is THEIR law. Not yours. Not mine. THEIRS.
    One exception - An amendment to the Constitution. Like I said earlier, good luck with that.
    Do you live in NH?

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