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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

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    Enemies of the Constitution.



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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    One wonders when the first amendment will no longer apply to States?
    One wonders how it ever managed to BE applied to the states...

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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court (Update3) - Bloomberg.com

    Looks like the 2nd amendment is on its way to incorpration against actions by the states.

    Its about time.
    And people think I don't know what I'm talking about when I bitch about Chicago. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than you will find in Chicago politics. There is no better example of big brother type politics. Disarm the People, give them no opportunity to fight back against the State and its goon squad. For as much as I love that city, the politics there are crazy. And Daley and his storm troopers use arguments like "collective safety" as the reason behind it. Which should immediately show the problems and dangers with the collective "safety" argument. Its a mainstay for those seeking to steal freedom and liberty.
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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And people think I don't know what I'm talking about when I bitch about Chicago. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy than you will find in Chicago politics. There is no better example of big brother type politics. Disarm the People, give them no opportunity to fight back against the State and its goon squad. For as much as I love that city, the politics there are crazy. And Daley and his storm troopers use arguments like "collective safety" as the reason behind it. Which should immediately show the problems and dangers with the collective "safety" argument. Its a mainstay for those seeking to steal freedom and liberty.
    Collective safety = hive mentality = element of Communism.
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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    It's the second amendment, and the potential abolishing of it, that will eventually trigger the actual secession of part of this country. Just watch.

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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    It's the second amendment, and the potential abolishing of it, that will eventually trigger the actual secession of part of this country. Just watch.
    *Grabs popscorn and waits*

    Ive been ready for this for some time. Let the local and state government take back the power that should be theirs.

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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    The weekend of May 30-31, 2009 there were seven gun homicides in one twenty-four hour period in the city of Chicago. Nuff said for preventing law abiding citizens from "gun owners".
    Seven guns died in one day? That's a damn shame.

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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    Growing up in Chicago under the dictatorship of the Deadly Dick Daley I can tell you there is no word as "constitution" in the "Second City". If you doubt me ask his son Joseph Stalin Jr.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court (Update3) - Bloomberg.com

    Looks like the 2nd amendment is on its way to incorpration against actions by the states.

    Its about time.
    How do you conclude that a unanimous panel decision against incorporation (featuring two of the three most brilliant conservatives in the nation) is a path to incorporation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    "The unanimous three-judge panel ruled today that a U.S. Supreme Court decision last year, which recognized an individual right to bear arms under the U.S. Constitutionís Second Amendment, didnít apply to states and municipalities. "



    WTF? Who does it then apply to?
    You're not seriously asking this, are you? Think about what type of government there might be other than state or local.


    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Who were the judges on that panel?
    As mentioned above, two of the three most brilliant conservatives in the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Enemies of the Constitution.
    Or proponents of federalism. Y'know, whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    As our forefathers penned the Bill of Rights, it was determined that the right to bear arms is an "inalienable" right, not subject to Government intervention, either Federal or local. The Chicago law is unconstitutional, and the Appeals court is clearly in error.

    I bet dollars to donuts that the Supreme court will correctly interpret the constitution on this issue when it gets there.
    Can you show me evidence that the founding fathers intended the Constitution to bind state or local governments?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Given its ruling in Heller, its hard to see how it cannot.
    Heller didn't apply it to the states.
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    Re: Chicago Law Banning Handguns in City Upheld by Court

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Heller didn't apply it to the states.
    Perhaps not explicitly, but Heller did affirm a fundamental right of the individual to keep and bear arms.

    The Fourteenth Amendment, however, is explicit in requiring the states to respect right elucidated in the US Constitution:

    1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
    From Heller we have an assurance the 2nd Amendment confirms the fundamental right to keep and bear arms. From the Fourteenth Amendment we have an assurance the fundamental rights guaranteed by the US Constitution may not be circumscribed by the states.

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